AgriStability again

[Sheepwheat]

Your in a different world on your scale selling sheep to pay your inputs. That’s not the case for majority of others.

Could you expound on this statement Please? You seem to think you know what world I am in. The wording you used there make me confident you have no idea what you are trying to say???

[sumdumguy]

Sheepwheat makes a good point about price creep of costs if a guaranteed revenue program was implemented. We all know that the risk is there for that outcome but as we know many of the chemicals and other inputs that we use are a lot cheaper across the line. If we could import cheaper inputs that would help. At any rate, how long can Canadian farmers compete without support in a world where American, European and many other farmers are financially supported?

As for the landlords who feel they are entitled to a share of unseeded acres payments, there probably are good arguments for a sharing formula. ( IMHO, and I am no landlord and have no opinion either way.)

When the Crow Benefit payment was paid out, there was a lot of “negotiating” between landlord and renter. Some renters wanted a portion of the payment and felt they deserved it and some landlords did share with their renters even though it was a capital payment to land owners. So just saying.

[Hopalong]

Have seen list of risk management program options on how governments could deal with unpopular AgriStability.
From own farm interest, retaining program pretty much as is might be most attractive one but it is not listed as an option.
Proposals for changes or a new program might please many who have responded on this thread but do not see any clear winning ones for own business.
Thanks to those who responded.

[the big wheel]

Sheepwheat makes a good point about price creep of costs if a guaranteed revenue program was implemented. We all know that the risk is there for that outcome but as we know many of the chemicals and other inputs that we use are a lot cheaper across the line. If we could import cheaper inputs that would help. At any rate, how long can Canadian farmers compete without support in a world where American, European and many other farmers are financially supported?

As for the landlords who feel they are entitled to a share of unseeded acres payments, there probably are good arguments for a sharing formula. ( IMHO, and I am no landlord and have no opinion either way.)

When the Crow Benefit payment was paid out, there was a lot of “negotiating” between landlord and renter. Some renters wanted a portion of the payment and felt they deserved it and some landlords did share with their renters even though it was a capital payment to land owners. So just saying.

That line is the government propaganda bullshit so they don’t have to do anything some. It that up just because it’s there favourite government saying it. Not understanding if you don’t have a dollar in your pocket or you have one which one gives you at least some option?

[tweety]

What do you call 40 million to EVRAZ?

110 million to AGT?

3.9 billion to supply management???

5 million to Morris Industries???

How much wasn't reported during the GTH to landlords????

150 million to graincos for insurance from EDC...to protect their sales...none of that is coming to primary producers....

Cut out the rest of the welfare to other industries and lower taxes and then it makes sense....

You get 15 bucks an acre, landlord takes 12 extra, seed grower takes extra 6, chem dealer extra 11, fert dealer extra 9, machinery dealer takes extra 13 - because they know you got 10. Your 15$ welfare payment becomes 51$ in the expense column.