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You might get your wish. Scheer is an absolute loser of a candidate. Whoever is running his campaign needs to re think their tactics.
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I would certainly like to believe that you are correct that the separation of western Canada in inevitable. My whole life I have watched as Quebec rules Canada(I am mid 50's now). The eastern elites have determined that western Canada has enough pipelines and Bill C-69 will certainly assure than no more will be proposed and built. They are determined to slowly kill the oil industry in western Canada. As Jack Mintz says in his latest article in the Financial post "Only one country is contemplating destroying its own resource sector:Canada". I think it is a hell of a mess! But are there enough people in western Canada that would vote for separation? If Justin Trudeau gets in again, it is certainly possible!Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View PostIt's a shame to be so cynical, but I've reached the point where I am cheering for Trudeau, Every time they successfully implement a anti-industry, anti-Western anti-progess policy. Because every time they do it expedites the Inevitable process of western separation. The sooner the better. I am now hoping that Trudeau gets back in in the fall, A Conservative win would likely delay the entire process another four years. And there will be zero sympathy for Those who voted for an enabled this outcome.Last edited by Hamloc; Jun 13, 2019, 07:34.
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Originally posted by jazz View Post
.....If Kenny annpunced intention to seperate, the population in this country would balance pretty quickly. I bet a couple million people would move west pretty fast.
Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View PostOnly those who are capable of performing basic math......
Oh, the irony. Even rolling MB, SK, AB and BC together you're only about 11.5 million - way smaller than Ontario alone and less than a third of the Canadian population. You'd need to move more that 2 million to even this up, and that's on the glib assumption that BC would want anything to do with it. They after all are the ones determined not to allow increased shipments of AB oil to get to the coast through their province. Without them you're close to 5 million less people - isolated and landlocked with a sixth of the Canadian population and apparently not good at math.
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Interesting Grassfarmer, you come from a country with a population of just over 5 million and has its own desires of independence. I will grant you that Scotland is not landlocked like western Canada. I do agree that there is a good portion of residents in BC who look at the world somewhat differently than the majority of residents in the praire provinces. Having said that I see little value coming to Alberta from Ottawa! Ottawa is doing all it can to slow or eliminate growth in Alberta's energy sector, at some point this will become very clear to Albertan's. What baffles me the most is this moronic belief we can replace an innovative energy sector that exports its equipment and technology to the world with government subsidized imported chinese solar panels, this shows a true inability to do math!!! Enjoy your day.Originally posted by grassfarmer View PostOh, the irony. Even rolling MB, SK, AB and BC together you're only about 11.5 million - way smaller than Ontario alone and less than a third of the Canadian population. You'd need to move more that 2 million to even this up, and that's on the glib assumption that BC would want anything to do with it. They after all are the ones determined not to allow increased shipments of AB oil to get to the coast through their province. Without them you're close to 5 million less people - isolated and landlocked with a sixth of the Canadian population and apparently not good at math.
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Independence would be a dumb idea in both places, hopefully sanity prevails in both and it never happens.Originally posted by Hamloc View PostInteresting Grassfarmer, you come from a country with a population of just over 5 million and has its own desires of independence. I will grant you that Scotland is not landlocked like western Canada....
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you might be surprised how population of the western republic would increase dramatically in the days following separation from this cancer ridden pus filled growth . people are sick of the corruption in quebec and those assholes running dictators for this fine country. i worked in quebec , years ago, drilling for natural gas , no less. theres a lot of good people there that are sick of the bullshit. and ontario, well you can see they have had their fill.Originally posted by grassfarmer View PostOh, the irony. Even rolling MB, SK, AB and BC together you're only about 11.5 million - way smaller than Ontario alone and less than a third of the Canadian population. You'd need to move more that 2 million to even this up, and that's on the glib assumption that BC would want anything to do with it. They after all are the ones determined not to allow increased shipments of AB oil to get to the coast through their province. Without them you're close to 5 million less people - isolated and landlocked with a sixth of the Canadian population and apparently not good at math.
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There is more to this countries economy than western resources and commodities. But the resource sector will still be an important part of our economy for a long time yet.
Its not being shut down, even though Harper signed a G7 agreement that Canada would stop using fossil energy by 2100.
Norway has strict environmental regulations, many electric cars, reduced carbon emissions, collects generous oil royalties and has a trillion dollars from their oil wealth invested in a heritage fund. Not too bad I would say. They are still capitalists.
But try to collect more royalties, strengthen environmental regulations and protect the environment in Canada and the world is going to end? The oil industry can't even clean up its own mess of abandoned and orphaned wells without whining and complaining.
Did everyone believe that the out of control unsustainable resource boom was going to last forever? Reasonable and thoughtful people know better.
Oil and gas have always been cyclical. Alberta has always had a boom and bust economy. Its the curse of the resource sector and aggravated by mismanagement.
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