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    #11
    Originally posted by jazz View Post
    This forum really needs a dislike button so I can use it on grasses posts. So our current ag predicament is still the fault of getting rid of the CWB? Cmon, you sound like Trudeau going on about Harpers fault.

    The issue is simple, the trade sands are shifting that's clear and no CWB is going to help with that. A slow moving non responsive inefficient monopoly is not the answer to free market capitalism, ever. The solution was leadership which we cant get under liberal mismanagement.
    The solution was transparent/accountable reporting....the graincos knew in January or earlier that this was a problem....


    Cleaning of grain???? Who approved putting the deer shit back in the shipments years ago????


    Everyone involved with that should have had an good beating....instead they sent the bill to farmers...and still are...

    Its important to remember the railways get their rubber stamped freight increases no matter the value of the commodity they are moving.....and the graincos will still make their margin...retailers are not offering discounts with the current issue ...are they?

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      #12
      Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
      So is there no truth to his claims that foreign buyers are disappointed with the lower quality of product they are receiving from Canada? Do you know if the standard of product the international customer is receiving has slipped? Do you care about that?
      I remember a cousin telling me 25-30 years ago he was watching a ship being loaded with no 1 wheat. he told me if that sample was his that he would be paid for a no 3
      If the sample was too dirty for their liking the problem could have easily been fixed with some communication. Therefore I say this is political.
      I see Ken Larsen is a member of the Canadian Wheat board Alliance. tells me everything why such garbage was written.

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        #13
        Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
        So is there no truth to his claims that foreign buyers are disappointed with the lower quality of product they are receiving from Canada? Do you know if the standard of product the international customer is receiving has slipped? Do you care about that?

        Actually it is the opposite of that. There are countries that want lower grade product. They don't feed rich people so they have learned to use lower grades, blend whatever. The CWB was totally oblivious to that market and sold a bunch of wheat as feed, or blended lower stuff up and tried to pass it off while there was a clear separate market for it.

        Now we are seeing the neglect of the market come home to roost. We are still being told to grow the most high quality we can and take feed prices for it, make the diff up on volume when clearly that is not what the world wants or needs. Now the price differentials are destroyed along with the protein differentials. Durum is the same price as feed. The CWB was the precursor to this and we still didn't pivot our approach after they were gone.

        We need to be realistic about where our production is going. Canola was feeding pigs. Durum is feeding livestock and pulses are feeding poor people in India. Do you know what people in India substitute lentils for when the prices get too high? Mud, that's right. Those people will eat mud because they cant pay for the product. Don't need a lot of high quality for that market.
        Last edited by jazz; Apr 29, 2019, 10:35.

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          #14
          Grassy, you and Ken obviously know nothing about the grain trade.

          Every grain contract has very specific specs which need to be met. It clearly states tolerances for foreign material and if it doesn't meet that spec it can be rejected.

          India did not stop buying lentils because they were too dirty. Each shipment had a grade certification given to it and if doesn't meet spec there are clear rules on how to deal with it.

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            #15
            We are going to have to open our eyes to the fact that we have thrown the baby out with the bath water and we should keep an open mind to ways to examine the consequences of the disintegration. I did not value the CWB but I did value all the other government programs that backed us up in all our exporting. Harper did us wrong not standing up and retaining our strength by dismantling everything. Sorry guys, I can see a dangerous trend has left the industry in disarray and the damage is filtering down and kicking us in the butt. Unless a new government is forced to replace the supports, we are going to continue the spiral downward.

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              #16
              Scheer has been pretty quiet on the 9 dollar bushel drop in red lentil prices....

              Don't see others taking a pay cut like farmers are expected to...

              My 2019 agristability fee is paid....My 2017 hasn't been finished yet ....2018 ...I need to finish my forms yet....

              I am well looked after by the programs the Conservatives like Scheer gutted...

              The canola in question is the graincos grain....its nice to see how quick they stood up and took notice when Richardson made the call......

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                #17
                The so called contamination, dockage, foreign material problem could be very easily eliminated by having a few country of destination inspectors inspect and grade, then reject or accept before and during loading of the ship.
                That would remove the contamination leverage out of the bartering equation.

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                  #18
                  The CWB should have become our marketing arm. Taking up the mantle of these farm groups and govt and opening doors to trade constantly. They had contacts and other resources and that should have been strengthened and with a private influence could have really created some value. An entity like that right now would be very useful in our current trade disputes. I never expected a dual market or to be thrown to the wolves either. When the CWB got folded up and sold for pennies was a sad day.

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                    #19
                    i still say that every govt in the world is tits up and rather then cause a huge commotion stating so, they are coming up with other reasons to not buy. Use up the stocks they claim they have that are cheaper, and likely dropping out of condition, then buying foreign.

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                      #20
                      Honest to god why I read anything grass posts it’s total bullshit.

                      We have a superior product compared to other places in the world and we actually have grain traces right back to the farm.

                      Other places yea right.

                      It’s stupid and when producers can’t figure it out really sad.

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