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    #31
    The Canada we know, was built by immigrants, refugees, first nations and their descendants who were often fleeing war, poverty, and inequality. Just like the current immigrants and refugees, they were looking for a better life and opportunities.

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      #32
      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      The Canada we know, was built by immigrants, refugees, first nations and their descendants who were often fleeing war, poverty, and inequality. Just like the current immigrants and refugees, they were looking for a better life and opportunities.

      Immigration 100 yrs ago vs immigration into a welfare state are vastly different things. My grandparents had to move to the boondocks and eke out a living in the rocks. No hotel room for them. They were pioneers, not immigrants.

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        #33
        they were pioneers , not freeloaders

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          #34
          Well you can ask different people in Canada what they think of Trudeau and some like him, some don’t.
          A year ago opinions were different.
          But for years large landowners along the US/Mexican border were much in favour of cheap labour.

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            #35
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            The Canada we know, was built by immigrants, refugees, first nations and their descendants who were often fleeing war, poverty, and inequality. Just like the current immigrants and refugees, they were looking for a better life and opportunities.

            Are you saying this country will see the same growth in infrastructure like the immigration brought 100 years ago.....not likely....

            We are being reduced to the countries they are coming from now....if they couldn't do shit in their homeland....they won't do more here...

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              #36
              Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
              There was some polling done in the Texas Lyceum Poll on the immigration issue which showed:

              61% oppose a border wall versus 35% in favour.
              62% of Texans think immigration helps the US more than it hurts it, 27% think it hurts more than helps.
              The poll also found 90% of Texas adults support allowing illegal immigrants already in the country illegally to become citizens if there were strict conditions attached.

              My brother lived in Austin for a few years and has a fair handle on Texan opinions.
              I don't doubt the accuracy of you numbers and agree the closer you live with immigrants the more accepting you are.

              One of the big issues even among the strongest Hillery supporters is the illegals are basically
              on a free ride. They don't pay any payroll taxes or file tax returns as most work for cash. Most don't have drivers license or auto insurance so hope you don't get hit by one. They have the ability to just disappear.

              IMHO the US can't run without them as the dominate many industries, not just pickers.

              Austin is a nice modern city to visit but could be in California. Referred to as "The Peoples Republic of Austin". Maybe not a fair handle on Texas opinions.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin,_Texas#Politics

              You should check Austin out. If you got a little closer to some Americans you might be more accepting.

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                #37
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                The Canada we know, was built by immigrants, refugees, first nations and their descendants who were often fleeing war, poverty, and inequality. Just like the current immigrants and refugees, they were looking for a better life and opportunities.
                Where do you even start with a statement like this

                WOW!

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                  #38
                  Canada was built by immigrants that melded into the Canadian identity.....that was respected by the world....

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by bucket View Post
                    Canada was built by immigrants that melded into the Canadian identity.....that was respected by the world....
                    How true snd now we’re becoming the laughing stock of the western world
                    Trump is making a fool out of our guy and we are paying the bill

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                      #40
                      The first wave of new comers to Canada were the explorers people that mapped this huge territory. Second wave were the pioneers people dropped into the middle of nowhere with no support and no infrastructure and told to tame the land. Third wave were the settlers who moved into established outposts and budding towns and the development the pioneers established. Some pioneers still came at this time because there was still a lot of land untamed. Everyone after that were immigrants who landed in a modern country with generous benefits and supports. Everyone has contributed but not everyones contribution is equal.

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