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Red Meat a Carcinogen?

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  • grassfarmer
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2002
    • 9734

    #11
    I agree with fjlip, never been a fan of burnt or scorched meat. Prefer it done in the slow cooker and find it easier to digest that way than as a big steak.
    Wife tried the keto with good results but it's pretty extreme and as such hard to stay on. I prefer moderation combined with exercise.
    I think there is a genetic aspect to this that is overlooked - not every food has the same effect on different people or different ethnic groups. I know what they say about refined sugar but I've got a sweet tooth and seem to be able to handle it better than most. Growing up we'd have 6 or 7 mugs of tea/coffee a day with two heaped teaspoons of sugar in each so 12-14 spoonfuls right there plus all the sweet deserts and candy we ate. I'm not overweight and never likely to be but I have cut back sugar considerably. My Dad is 85 and he climbed the highest peak in the southern hemisphere on his 70th birthday and played badminton until he was 80. He's suffered no ill effects of this high sugar diet all his life.

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    • sk_wheatking
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 898

      #12
      Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
      I agree with fjlip, never been a fan of burnt or scorched meat. Prefer it done in the slow cooker and find it easier to digest that way than as a big steak.
      Wife tried the keto with good results but it's pretty extreme and as such hard to stay on. I prefer moderation combined with exercise.
      I think there is a genetic aspect to this that is overlooked - not every food has the same effect on different people or different ethnic groups. I know what they say about refined sugar but I've got a sweet tooth and seem to be able to handle it better than most. Growing up we'd have 6 or 7 mugs of tea/coffee a day with two heaped teaspoons of sugar in each so 12-14 spoonfuls right there plus all the sweet deserts and candy we ate. I'm not overweight and never likely to be but I have cut back sugar considerably. My Dad is 85 and he climbed the highest peak in the southern hemisphere on his 70th birthday and played badminton until he was 80. He's suffered no ill effects of this high sugar diet all his life.
      I cant disagree with anything you said here.....I dont like anything burnt, whatsoever. I bbq slow. I tell waiters at restaurants that I like medium steaks and if they have to take extra time to cook mine I'm ok with it...no black whatsoever. It's not because I dont think its healthy, I just don't like the taste of coal.

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      • sk_wheatking
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 898

        #13
        Originally posted by sk_wheatking View Post
        I cant disagree with anything you said here.....I dont like anything burnt, whatsoever. I bbq slow. I tell waiters at restaurants that I like medium steaks and if they have to take extra time to cook mine I'm ok with it...no black whatsoever. It's not because I dont think its healthy, I just don't like the taste of coal.
        Mind you I eat whatever is put in front of me and I never complain about a meal at a restaurant. If it's that bad I eat what I can and leave the rest. Doesnt happen very often though.

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        • SASKFARMER3
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2006
          • 14485

          #14
          I like a blue steak if it’s good beef. Tenderloin works. 3 to 5 min per side.

          Vegans look so nice in there coffin.

          Just saying meat is needed for a balanced diet. Pushing pulse is making us like the poor areas of the world.

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          • SASKFARMER3
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2006
            • 14485

            #15


            Slow cooked on a smoker is so good.

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            • wd9
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2000
              • 3196

              #16
              Originally posted by SASKFARMER3 View Post


              Slow cooked on a smoker is so good.
              Mmmmm Group 1 polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons and heterocyclic aromatic amines, the delicious darlings doubling or more the risk for bowel/colorectal cancer.

              But let's just blame sugar instead. After all, burning C6H12O6 gives energy + CO2 + H2O which must be toxic, its causing climate change.

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              • sumdumguy
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 12004

                #17
                My grandmother loved the fat almost burnt from the outside of a roast, same with chicken skin. She lived alone until the time of her death at 88 years. Mother is 95 in June and lives on sweets, loves good chocolate, baking from le Macaron, only the richest. Everything is smothered with whipping cream and maple syrup. She does not even take one pill and lives alone, is totally coherent - a little left-wing from reading two newspapers a day, cover -to - cover.

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                • blackpowder
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 9333

                  #18
                  Red meat dangerous. Tell that to the woolly mammoth lol.
                  Or the Inuit.
                  It's about dosage and genetics.
                  If the hippies were starving to death they'd be eating gophers raw and licking the flyswatter.
                  Last edited by blackpowder; Jan 17, 2019, 16:07.

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                  • wd9
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2000
                    • 3196

                    #19
                    Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
                    Red meat dangerous. Tell that to the woolly mammoth lol.
                    Or the Inuit.
                    It's about dosage and genetics.
                    If the hippies were starving to death they'd be eating gophers raw and licking the flyswatter.
                    Red meat is fine, its turning it into bacon or cooking it is the problem.

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                    • farmaholic
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 17483

                      #20
                      Are humans equipped with a set of teeth to be carnivores, herbivores or omnivores?

                      I don't remember, because what wasn't punched out rotted out.

                      Balance your diet and eat everything in moderation.

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