Can the Fertilizer industry just go F#$K OFF.

[farmaholic]

Some guys will always believe that but many this year are questioning the paradigm for the first time.

As for the young guys not so sure about them. Lots are cocky, backed by old dumb money and are chasing the outstanding farmer awards and have no clue.

Those are highly competitive high testosterone young farmers, and I find their attitudes are directly related to the group they hang out with....competitive as hell or reserved.

There comes a time in your life you get real averse to risking what's "yours", especially after years of doing it. Or after years of risking credit and then finally you're playing with your own cash....suddenly you begin to question things....LOL, LMFAO!

[bucket]

As far as I'm concerned anyone who is using stabilizers can probably afford the fertilizer as well.

Anyone can step off the treadmill any time they want, right hobbyfrmr?!?!?!?

And farmers always like to try and make up for poor grain prices and high input costs with high volume yields, right bucket?!?!?!?

There were some astute young guys at that seed meeting....all hope is not lost on the younger guys yet....


When they start a question about higher yields requiring higher inputs.....they know that it can't be made up on volume....


""""We lose money on every transaction but make it up on volume...."""" the change bank.

****ing laugh everything I think of it.....

[SASKFARMER3]

Yes, I agree with both of you.

When you're using your own cash it just pisses you off that they take and take and take.

You sell out and some other loser that takes till they are sick and tired of the game.

The young understand at least most that it is an insane business. Some with Dads backing still need a quick kick in the nuts to set a reality.

[macdon02]

Well it's the most honorable profession in the world....... they are using the recent pop in nat gas to justify it, and I'm guessing they figured out we are like every other sector of society that loaded up on cheap debt while rates were low, so we are slaves to the system until the model changes, then they'll keep charging it till they can't. Fert is a racket plain and simple and the industry is protected by regulation that prevents just anyone producing it. Klause posted some start up companies looking to make ammonia in a school locker out of air basically, but I doubt those guys will get anywhere. Nothing changes till people go hungry

[bigzee]

I will be buying fert in the next 5 days going to low ball everyone of them till someone bites. They are telling me how slow things are, so let’s see which one takes the bait. I will be deciding the price, not them. I priced out 6 different places, and they all have the same excuses.

[sumdumguy]

Those are highly competitive high testosterone young farmers, and I find their attitudes are directly relatedx to the group they hang out with....competitive as hell or reserved.

There comes a time in your life you get real averse to risking what's "yours", especially after years of doing it. Or after years of risking credit and then finally you're playing with your own cash....suddenly you begin to question things....LOL, LMFAO!

You got it buddy!

[Guest]

how much for year end juice with delivery ?

[SASKFARMER3]

51.9 includes delivery with you owning your tanks

[tmyrfield]

how much for year end juice with delivery ?

hearing $1080/t paid now
75/t delivery
34/t tank
?/t applicator

[SASKFARMER3]

Does any farmer do math any more or is it just spend spend put on credit and hope the insurance and Gars cover your costs if all fail. spend spend spend, your making money.

ok, your playing with money.

Reality did any farmer crunch the numbers and add up what all the shit is going to cost farmers.

Seed tax. grow 70 wheat x 1000 = 70000 bushels with a tax of say 2 dollars a ton 3810.00 for your own seed or 3.81 an acre.

Then add in the cost of fert

120 lbs or S15 and 120 lbs of Ammonia compared to last year 8.00 an acre plus 12.00 or 20 an acre.

Freight increase with a carbon tax.

Trucking costs for chemical due to the carbon tax.

Chem increase because they have to pay for all the new companies that joined together.

Interest rates going higher.

Diesel through the roof.

Parts insane.

So profit where is it.

Please explain all you wise guys tell me how farming is going to be so profitable this year.