New seed royalties

[walterm]

When you look at back a few years there was always one or two varieties that were the mainstay for a class like CWRS...

AC barrie was very popular for years then something replaced it...

Not sure how it helps to have 40 different varieties for CWRS when the end users are looking for consistency...

Look at maltsters ...they don't want 5 different varieties of barley to make consistent beer...do they???

You are right rareearth whats with so many varieties ...maybe they could cut their costs by fewer...

Seems no one is buying to clean the bins out anyways.

Wonder what just the advertising bill is on those varieties that no one buys? Can you even get seed for most of them? 463 wheat varieties how many aren't even grown?

[blueversi]

Maybe we will all have to go back to mixed farming, put as much grain as you can through animals , let them collect what comes from the endpoint of the livestock.

[bucket]

Maybe we will all have to go back to mixed farming, put as much grain as you can through animals , let them collect what comes from the endpoint of the livestock.

I think once they are done with the grain guys they will start a royalty scheme on livestock as well....just wait....


Buying purebred bull is the same as buying a new variety. ....not sure why we need royalties on grain...

[Rareearth]

If I have the pleasure to farm for 50 years, there is no way every year we have new varieties.

The risk of new, untested dudds, insect or disease susceptibility is not worth the risk or expense.

[Rareearth]

Sclerotinia
Anphomycies
Wheat midge
Seed pod weevils
Aphids
Root nematodes ( wait for it)
Etc

[walterm]

Still trying to figure out seed business. Do seed growers have to buy new registered seed every year to be able to sell product as certified?

[blueversi]

I think once they are done with the grain guys they will start a royalty scheme on livestock as well....just wait....


Buying purebred bull is the same as buying a new variety. ....not sure why we need royalties on grain...

Most likely, this industry is a shitshow at best and getting worse.

[Guest]

Anyone know if it is legal for grain cos to just take an automatic one percent dock on feed barley ?
One company does an actual dockage on our loads and it always .2 -.3 % . The other one just takes 1% . This is $45 we are losing every load ?
I bet it gets sold at other end with no dock , certainly doesnt get cleaned ?

[furrowtickler]

Anyone know if it is legal for grain cos to just take an automatic one percent dock on feed barley ?
One company does an actual dockage on our loads and it always .2 -.3 % . The other one just takes 1% . This is $45 we are losing every load ?
I bet it gets sold at other end with no dock , certainly doesnt get cleaned ?

Every elevator here doing the same , unless you call them on it and force them to do a dockage .

[grassfarmer]

Are we going to allow the seed synergy group to steam roll us? Where are our producer groups on this issue? not hearing much out of them.

I guess you weren't listening either when one producer group spelled out the dangers and implored farmers to make their views known - back in 2004
http://www.nfu.ca/wp-content/uploads/2005/12/uf_december_2004_january_2005.pdf http://https://www.nfu.ca/wp-content/uploads/2005/12/uf_december_2004_january_2005.pdf

and constantly since then including this from 2012
http://www.nfu.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/NFU-Seeds-Factsheet-6.pdf http://https://www.nfu.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/NFU-Seeds-Factsheet-6.pdf

Time to face reality - most of you weren't paying attention when you had the chance to influence the outcome and must accept some responsibility for that. It's too little too late starting to complain now.