Renewables Chuck

[chuckChuck]

"Federal data show that in the past decade the overall inflation-adjusted price of electricity has fallen, though some parts of that cost have increased. The costs of generating electricity (namely from natural gas, wind and solar) have fallen, while the cost to deliver that power have generally increased. (Note: these data are for ISO-based utilities, which account for about 70% of the U.S. load.)

The underlying components of the cost of electricity are changing. https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=32812Energy Information Administration

Generation (wholesale cost) is only part of the full retail cost of electricity. We also have to pay for the wires, poles, and the people that maintain them, and this portion of the cost has increased lately, but not outside of historical bounds.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

"Federal data show that in the past decade the overall inflation-adjusted price of electricity has fallen, though some parts of that cost have increased. The costs of generating electricity (namely from natural gas, wind and solar) have fallen, while the cost to deliver that power have generally increased. (Note: these data are for ISO-based utilities, which account for about 70% of the U.S. load.)

The underlying components of the cost of electricity are changing. https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=32812Energy Information Administration

Generation (wholesale cost) is only part of the full retail cost of electricity. We also have to pay for the wires, poles, and the people that maintain them, and this portion of the cost has increased lately, but not outside of historical bounds.

So, lots of evidence that in theory, generation costs should be lower, but, back in the real world where we receive our power bills, with tranmission and generation etc. costs all separated, who, in what jurisdiction is enjoying these new lower generation rates? As long as we are still attached to the grid, we are stuck with those transmission and fixed costs, so that needs to be included as well.

[jimmy]

Husky energy wanted to use their flare gas to run steam turbines to generate electricity to run their equipment and sell the surplus if there was any and if short use saskpower. Saskpower said no so project was scrapped. Another dreamer from a small town in sask dreamed up a plan to use this flare gas to heat a 80 to 160 acre green house to grow produce for Saskatchewan. Oil company said sure the gas is yours for free but Ndp government of the day wouldn’t give him water or work with him to get the power there So project scrapped. So much for saving the earth. The moral of the story is the crowns don’t want competition even if it means helping the environment or the people that live there.

[WiltonRanch]

Husky energy wanted to use their flare gas to run steam turbines to generate electricity to run their equipment and sell the surplus if there was any and if short use saskpower. Saskpower said no so project was scrapped. Another dreamer from a small town in sask dreamed up a plan to use this flare gas to heat a 80 to 160 acre green house to grow produce for Saskatchewan. Oil company said sure the gas is yours for free but Ndp government of the day wouldn’t give him water or work with him to get the power there So project scrapped. So much for saving the earth. The moral of the story is the crowns don’t want competition even if it means helping the environment or the people that live there.

Exactly! Utilities are a monopoly in this province irregardless of what govt is in power they do not want competition. They’d rather roll money into grandiose wind farms or solar installations costing so much when private citizens if given the opportunity could add a lot of green energy to the grid with their own investments. Look how much Sasktel wined and tried to stonewall other cell providers for so long. No way we will ever become completely reliant on renewables and thinking that switching to lng over coal is sustainable is simply rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. There is plenty of coal for years to come. Better to use a balanced basket of sources so we don’t run out of 1 while having to play catch up retooling to use other “dirty” sources.