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    #11
    Chuck that report is so full of shit its not even funny.

    This whole shit show is a joke.

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      #12
      Truth hurts..

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        #13
        Oh, Chucky "finds another site and spew your propaganda".

        Who the F#$K spews bullshit but you and this bullshit Climate change fricking Carbon Tax that just is a Tax.

        Buy another solar panel for your acreage and tell me how well it has done the last week without the sun shining. Plus wait till its min 45 how well electric heat is working for you. Let's sit and hibernate under the covers or actually stay in the 21St century and live a wonderful life.

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          #14
          Dismiss and deny! No substance, all crude partisan vitriol.

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            #15
            Originally posted by SASKFARMER3 View Post
            Oh, Chucky "finds another site and spew your propaganda".

            Who the F#$K spews bullshit but you and this bullshit Climate change fricking Carbon Tax that just is a Tax.

            Buy another solar panel for your acreage and tell me how well it has done the last week without the sun shining. Plus wait till its min 45 how well electric heat is working for you. Let's sit and hibernate under the covers or actually stay in the 21St century and live a wonderful life.
            Say something intelligent once and see how it feels?
            Last edited by chuckChuck; Dec 2, 2018, 12:37.

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              #16
              Originally posted by TASFarms View Post
              Tier 4 lowers nitrous oxide down to sweet tweet.
              What to locomotives use for emission? Probably not much
              Agreed , so where do we emit massive amounts of nitrous oxide and methane ?
              It’s easy to throw up numbers but where do they come from off the crop land production??
              You cut and pasted a lot of nothing chuck.

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                #17
                Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                Agreed , so where do we emit massive amounts of nitrous oxide and methane ?
                It’s easy to throw up numbers but where do they come from off the crop land production??
                You cut and pasted a lot of nothing chuck.
                Livestock = methane
                Nitrogen fertilizer = nitrous oxide (N2O)

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                  #18
                  https://www.sciencenews.org/article/fertilizer-produces-far-more-greenhouse-gas-expected

                  "With an overload of fertilizer, soil microbes on farms may belch unexpectedly high levels of nitrous oxide, a greenhouse gas with 300 times as much heat-trapping power as carbon dioxide. The finding may help explain why agricultural nitrous oxide emissions are much higher than some scientists had predicted and could give clues for how to curb farm pollution.

                  Soil microbes have long been known to convert nitrogen-rich crop fertilizers, including manure and synthetic fertilizers, into nitrous oxide. After more than 1,000 field experiments, climate scientists calculated in the mid-2000s that the dirt dwellers spew about one kilogram of the greenhouse gas for every 100 kilograms of fertilizer, or roughly 1 percent. Researchers generally thought that emissions would scale up linearly: doubling fertilizer would double the emissions of gas.

                  But the predictions didn’t match up with real-world numbers. Estimating regional and global fluxes of atmospheric nitrous oxide levels a few years ago, researchers pegged the microbial conversion of fertilizer to gas at somewhere between 1.75 and 5 percent. Either the initial calculations were off or there were unknown sources of nitrous oxide, says biogeochemist Phil Robertson of Michigan State University in East Lansing. The latter was unlikely, he adds."

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    https://www.sciencenews.org/article/fertilizer-produces-far-more-greenhouse-gas-expected

                    "With an overload of fertilizer, soil microbes on farms may belch unexpectedly high levels of nitrous oxide, a greenhouse gas with 300 times as much heat-trapping power as carbon dioxide. The finding may help explain why agricultural nitrous oxide emissions are much higher than some scientists had predicted and could give clues for how to curb farm pollution.

                    Soil microbes have long been known to convert nitrogen-rich crop fertilizers, including manure and synthetic fertilizers, into nitrous oxide. After more than 1,000 field experiments, climate scientists calculated in the mid-2000s that the dirt dwellers spew about one kilogram of the greenhouse gas for every 100 kilograms of fertilizer, or roughly 1 percent. Researchers generally thought that emissions would scale up linearly: doubling fertilizer would double the emissions of gas.

                    But the predictions didn’t match up with real-world numbers. Estimating regional and global fluxes of atmospheric nitrous oxide levels a few years ago, researchers pegged the microbial conversion of fertilizer to gas at somewhere between 1.75 and 5 percent. Either the initial calculations were off or there were unknown sources of nitrous oxide, says biogeochemist Phil Robertson of Michigan State University in East Lansing. The latter was unlikely, he adds."
                    Any tests done on Nitrogen treated with N stabilizers ?
                    Those are out of date tests done of fertilizer not treated .

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      Livestock = methane
                      Nitrogen fertilizer = nitrous oxide (N2O)
                      I will let grassfarmer tackle the massive amount of methane issue from his livestock .
                      Your N2O info and data is out of date .
                      A lot of things have changed in the fertilizer industry the past few years .

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