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  • chuckChuck
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 12767

    #21
    Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
    It's not guns or the availability of firearms that makes people commit mass shootings. The question should be what is the reason people,are lashing out. Why are they feeling marginalized and disenfranchised? Gun crimes like these are symptom of something but what?

    One thing evident is that more the left screams for gun bans, the more shootings there are. The more Trump promotes a more armed America the more emboldened fringe alt right groups become.

    The US system is fractured. Maybe beyond repair. In a few years, white people will be a minority in the US. Will the SHTF then? If hate is growing now, it will be a bumper crop by 2035.
    The violent history and culture of the US, the racism and bigotry, the growing inequality, the decline of good blue collar jobs, a dysfunctional and very expensive health care system, all lead to people who are worse off and looking to blame someone.

    Their political system is corrupted by big money and not very democratic and they purposely make it hard for minorities and marginalized citizens to get registered to vote.

    Their screening for gun purchasers is very weak or non-existent and leads to violent people with mental problems owning large numbers of guns.

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    • newguy
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 2145

      #22
      Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
      It's not guns or the availability of firearms that makes people commit mass shootings. The question should be what is the reason people,are lashing out. Why are they feeling marginalized and disenfranchised? Gun crimes like these are symptom of something but what?

      One thing evident is that more the left screams for gun bans, the more shootings there are. The more Trump promotes a more armed America the more emboldened fringe alt right groups become.

      The US system is fractured. Maybe beyond repair. In a few years, white people will be a minority in the US. Will the SHTF then? If hate is growing now, it will be a bumper crop by 2035.
      Is that a problem white people are a minority?please explain.

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      • Braveheart
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2001
        • 3257

        #23
        If you are a white person living on the outer margins of society, maybe lower middle class and you find yourself unemployed or otherwise crowded out what will your reaction be? Consider it from someone's viewpoint who for generations has had "the power". Especially put yourself in the southern US (excluding Texas).

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        • Braveheart
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2001
          • 3257

          #24
          I know a handful of people from Switzerland. The all took their army rifles home. Easily mobilized militia.but just imagine a country with assault rifles (whatever an assault rifle is ha) behind a lot of bedroom doors. Mass shootings seem non existent. What's different?

          It's interesting how the left and Fascists both favour gun bans. Guess both have lots to fear from unhappy citizens.

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          • RWT101
            Member
            • Oct 2017
            • 77

            #25
            Here's an interesting way to put it.

            http://www.marketwatch.com/story/there-have-been-47220-gun-incidents-in-the-us-in-2018-and-here-they-all-are-on-one-map-2018-10-27?mod=MW_section_top_stories http://www.marketwatch.com/story/there-have-been-47220-gun-incidents-in-the-us-in-2018-and-here-they-all-are-on-one-map-2018-10-27?mod=MW_section_top_stories

            Can't help but notice that the coastal states are very red.

            And they are mostly DEMOCRAT voting states.

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            • newguy
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 2145

              #26
              Is it regional or left that does not accept Trump politics?Or is it more coastal living people have higher education?I definitely am not coastal or a lefty.

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              • RWT101
                Member
                • Oct 2017
                • 77

                #27
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                I should have included this US map with election results by county.

                Red is Trump. Blue is Clinton.

                If Shrillery had not won California as a state she would have suffered one of the most embarrassing losses in history.

                The strange thing is that there are some naive people who still talk as if it were a close election.

                Or else they have never seen this map because the Media Party doesn't want people to see it.

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                • sumdumguy
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 11974

                  #28

                  Wow, RWT, I thought it was really close, this looks like Trump won by a landslide. Is the medis that powerful to obscure the truth?

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                  • grassfarmer
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 9734

                    #29
                    Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                    Wow, RWT, I thought it was really close, this looks like Trump won by a landslide. Is the medis that powerful to obscure the truth?
                    You must be easily fooled. It's people that vote not acres.

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                    • chuckChuck
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 12767

                      #30
                      More Americans voted for Hillary Clinton than any other losing presidential candidate in US history.
                      The Democrat outpaced President-elect Donald Trump by almost 2.9 million votes, with 65,844,954 (48.2%) to his 62,979,879 (46.1%), according to revised and certified final election results from all 50 states and the District of Columbia.
                      Clinton's 2.1% margin ranks third among defeated candidates, according to statistics from US Elections Atlas. Andrew Jackson won by more than 10% in 1824 but was denied the presidency, which went to John Quincy Adams. In 1876, Samuel Tilden received 3% more votes than Rutherford B. Hayes, who eventually triumphed by one electoral vote.

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