Seed royalty

[farmaholic]

.....sounds like we'll just have to pass that extra cost down to our customer, what choice do we have?

I didn't think I could be that sarcastic this early in the morning.

[Rareearth]

Every one assumes w3 have the best and are the best. Like Alberta beef or Black Angus.

Maybe we should have free and open access to varieties from other countries?
Vs
We are exporting our varieties and levy dollars to fund competition in other countries.


Fertilizer is a “free trade commodity “ import from else where if local pricing doesn’t work?

Chemicals, herbicides and insecticides should be fre3 and open trade between counties, vs our captiv3 premium extract maximum profit possible. They manufacture these products in other countries and they are imported exclusively by the majors for distribution.

For all the Organic growers, or Austanada types “ carefull what you wish for”. The next step in “specification farming” is microbiological testing, this is not done or very selectively and is limited in use. Grain will be rejected at source( grain bin door or first delivery point) in mass. They the question, if it’s not safe or fit for humans how can it be used for livestock feed?

[HITTGrapevine]

Same old story…

Once upon a time, Saskatchewan farmers were sick of selling their grain to unscrupulous grain buyers and profiteers. So they formed their own elevator company. It was called Saskatchewan Wheat Pool (SWP). Eventually, the SWP became the biggest grain marketer in Western Canada. It even had its own export terminals on the West Coast and at Thunder Bay. And it gave farmers complete control of their own supply chain, from the field to the end market. The concept was called co-operative marketing. Farmers pooled their grain and sold it at competitive prices, based on volume, using their own elevator network. But alas. Over time, farmers fell asleep at the wheel and let a bunch of "executives" gain control of the Sask Wheat Pool. Under poor executive leadership, Sask Pool made a series of bad investments and managerial blunders, took on a mountain of debt and was eventually swallowed up by a private sector competitor for pennies on the dollar.
Moral of the story: Farmers had control of their own industry, but they gave it away through complacency.

Fast forward to today …
Like the SWP marketing story, the debate about seed royalties is a story about control.
Specifically, who has control of the seed industry? Who is trying to get it? And who's been asleep at the wheel?
To illustrate, consider this question:
What farmer in his right mind would invest in a plant breeding program (ie provide check-off levies and other forms of financial support) without demanding a share of the profits generated by new seed varieties?
Who in his right mind would agree to provide financial support for the development of an innovative product, without demanding a share of the profits that it generates? This is basic stuff. But somehow, it's happening right before our eyes.
To be clear:
a) farmers today are providing front-end financial support for seed research, development and the commercialization of new seed varieties;
b) they're demanding no return on their investment;
c) they're negotiating no ownership stake in the products that their investments help to develop;
d) they're paying up-front royalties for the right to use the products that they have already paid to develop, and;
e) and they're now facing the possibility of additional back-end or trailing royalities for the use of farm saved seed.
This is absolute lunancy.
But it will happen … unless someone takes the bull by the horns and organizes an opposition.

Here's the solution, IMHO …
• Stand up for your interests.
•*Get organized.
•*Demand respect from your elected parliamentarians
•*Use your monetary investments as a bargaining chip.
•*Demand to become an owner or shareholder of the products that you pay to develop.
•*And if you can't negotiate a deal that satisfies the interests and needs of grassroots farmers, then withdraw your financial support, en masse
•*Use your checkoff dollars to start your own farmer-owned plant breeding program.
•*Hire your own group of plant breeders.
•*Develop your own seed products that can be used by shareholders on a royalty-free basis.
•*And perhaps most importantly, put aside your petty ideological differences and work for a solution that benefits all farmers, whether they vote Conservative, Liberal, NDP or otherwise.

[Guest]

Same old story…

Once upon a time, Saskatchewan farmers were sick of selling their grain to unscrupulous grain buyers and profiteers. So they formed their own elevator company. It was called Saskatchewan Wheat Pool (SWP). Eventually, the SWP became the biggest grain marketer in Western Canada. It even had its own export terminals on the West Coast and at Thunder Bay. And it gave farmers complete control of their own supply chain, from the field to the end market. The concept was called co-operative marketing. Farmers pooled their grain and sold it at competitive prices, based on volume, using their own elevator network. But alas. Over time, farmers fell asleep at the wheel and let a bunch of "executives" gain control of the Sask Wheat Pool. Under poor executive leadership, Sask Pool made a series of bad investments and managerial blunders, took on a mountain of debt and was eventually swallowed up by a private sector competitor for pennies on the dollar.
Moral of the story: Farmers had control of their own industry, but they gave it away through complacency.

Fast forward to today …
Like the SWP marketing story, the debate about seed royalties is a story about control.
Specifically, who has control of the seed industry? Who is trying to get it? And who's been asleep at the wheel?
To illustrate, consider this question:
What farmer in his right mind would invest in a plant breeding program (ie provide check-off levies and other forms of financial support) without demanding a share of the profits generated by new seed varieties?
Who in his right mind would agree to provide financial support for the development of an innovative product, without demanding a share of the profits that it generates? This is basic stuff. But somehow, it's happening right before our eyes.
To be clear:
a) farmers today are providing front-end financial support for seed research, development and the commercialization of new seed varieties;
b) they're demanding no return on their investment;
c) they're negotiating no ownership stake in the products that their investments help to develop;
d) they're paying up-front royalties for the right to use the products that they have already paid to develop, and;
e) and they're now facing the possibility of additional back-end or trailing royalities for the use of farm saved seed.
This is absolute lunancy.
But it will happen … unless someone takes the bull by the horns and organizes an opposition.

Here's the solution, IMHO …
• Stand up for your interests.
•*Get organized.
•*Demand respect from your elected parliamentarians
•*Use your monetary investments as a bargaining chip.
•*Demand to become an owner or shareholder of the products that you pay to develop.
•*And if you can't negotiate a deal that satisfies the interests and needs of grassroots farmers, then withdraw your financial support, en masse
•*Use your checkoff dollars to start your own farmer-owned plant breeding program.
•*Hire your own group of plant breeders.
•*Develop your own seed products that can be used by shareholders on a royalty-free basis.
•*And perhaps most importantly, put aside your petty ideological differences and work for a solution that benefits all farmers, whether they vote Conservative, Liberal, NDP or otherwise.

Ditto
Demand your check off $ back today
Quit letting them use our own money against us

[fjlip]

You can only get a refund IF applied for in August, once a year.

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[Str8pipe]

Farmers Seed tax’s.

Call these two government employees and give them your opinion on seed royalty collection. They are the presenters at the consultations. on behalf of the government they are responsible for enabling the new systems of royalty collection.


They want to hear from framers.

Carla St. Croix 613-773-1221 Email carla.StCroix@Canada.ca

Or

Anthony Parker 613-773-7188 Email Anthony.Parker@Canada.ca

[Oliver88]

Call these two government employees and give them your opinion on seed royalty collection. They are the presenters at the consultations. on behalf of the government they are responsible for enabling the new systems of royalty collection.


They want to hear from framers.

Carla St. Croix 613-773-1221 Email carla.StCroix@Canada.ca

Or

Anthony Parker 613-773-7188 Email Anthony.Parker@Canada.ca

Interesting but scary that two bureaucrats from Ottawa are in charge of this “project”.

[grassfarmer]

👍🏻
There has been too much taking from the farmer.
End point royalties will be the issue that virtually every producer will oppose.

According to the reporting of the Winnipeg meeting the farmers speaking at the meeting fell into 3 groups:
"Opposed to paying more royalties."

"Not necessarily opposed to farmers contributing more but wary of signing a blank cheque that might benefit seed company shareholders."

"Support for more royalty collection on cereal seed. Advocates pointed to the success of canola, a crop where farmers rarely plant saved seed."

So there we have it. Spun to sound like a third (at most) of farmers oppose paying seed royalties. I wonder who the "advocates" were with that faulty logic? presumably not farmers.