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[malleefarmer]

They dont leave grass they are challenged from within there party.

Until recent times been very stable but now a dogs breakfast. Its become a popularity contest rather than good govt.

I liked and voted for Tony Abbott bit of a "old school " conservative fiscal accountablity smaller govt less waste and anti union.

He made some tough decisions for good of the country, but media based polls he least preffered prime minister for maybe 2 years in the polls but liberal was preffered govt. The liberals panicked and malcolm turnbull said we will lose govt if he stays it pissed off alot of right leaning voters such as myself, so we had a moderate leader or quasi left leader in a right wing party trying catch middle ground and swinging voters.

Malcolm won by narrowest margin possible and the upper house of politics impossible to get stuff through without horsetrading liberal dont have the numbers and have to give ground on all legislation. Fast foward malcolm is now even more unpopular than tony was, one hes peaved of traditional voters such as me, hes lost the middle ground voters cause he doesnt go far enough to middle ground or left.

So the guy that challenged today for prime ministership was old school. Cuased a kerfuffle 6 8 months ago said south african farmers should be allowed emgergency refugee status he was immigration minister did go down well with left who said no we need more syrians sudanese muslims of any shape and any country but no south africans there not true refugees. He made a flippant comment something like "at least they will be worthy citizens and uphold our beliefs" well shit hit the fan for a while.

Put a canadian slant on it , if JTs party thought heck we wont win next election with justin lets move him on now and get a new leader, but sounds like you way more stable govt and political process.

[furrowtickler]

What's wealth have to do with it?

It’s the main target of the cabin tax scheme. Just explained right there .
More admition of the real goal ... wealth transfer

[Oliver88]

"What's wealth have to do with it".........................LOL.

$$$$ has everything to do with a distribution of wealth and tax grab.

[fjlip]

It’s the main target of the cabin tax scheme. Just explained right there .
More admition of the real goal ... wealth transfer

You bet, the cat gets let out of the bag by slips of the tongue, ha ha we caught you !

[GDR]

Because reducing emissions for wealthy, high emitting people isn't much of a hardship. In the third world it could mean the difference between eating or not, life or death. For all the bitching on here about a carbon tax, if fuel prices were to double nobody would go hungry - doubtful if it would even lead to a reduction in the multiple holiday a year lifestyle enjoyed by many.

Grassfarmer you are right but that's kinda the same argument that you fail to see from most farmers on here. Heat and light in cold Canadian winters and rural commute for any goods and services are a necessity for most of us but someone living in an urban warm climate it is unnecessary yet carbon taxes make us carry the load for everyone.

[macdon02]

It’s the main target of the cabin tax scheme. Just explained right there .
More admition of the real goal ... wealth transfer

I wanted to see how deep he was gonna dig ..... fun haters

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Just curious Grassfarmer, would your views reflect the majority of your former fellow countrymen, farmers in particular? As you likely might have noticed, rural folks around here tend to be somewhat conservative, at least in principle( or principal, never sure), so I tend to assume that farmers elsewhere have similar views, but am probably wrong. Or any other country for that matter, if anyone else has any insights?

[malleefarmer]

Well AF5 give you view right or wrong dont a rats toss bag, but here most farmers are all right leaning some middle ground some conservative some ultra conservative.

For whats its worth been to NZ have daughter there scandanavia germany uk canada and good ole usa reckon the above comment fits farmers the world over.

Many on here are seen as leftys when there actual just middle ground rightys clear as mud yup farmaholic always understands my diatribe

[malleefarmer]

Not sure if its fake news but this is from the guy that challenged our PM and DIDNT get up i must add sadly he didnt get i think hes a great guy. ps sorry to bore you with aussie politics

“My name is Peter Dutton. It is a great honour to be elected leader of the Liberal Party of Australia. These have been turbulent times. Today, they come to an end and I will tell you why in one moment.

“Before I do, as new leader of this fine party, let me tell you what I am not. I am not Tony Abbott. I am not Malcolm Turnbull. It’s said I’m not charismatic either. Oh well, I’m not here to win a personality contest. Some say I’m not exciting, a bit dull in fact. Yes, I’ve heard it all: impassive, wooden, deadpan, not just bland in front of a camera, but blank. I’m called Mr Potato Head around Canberra.

“It’s true that I’m not front cover material for GQ magazine either, though maybe there’s a chance after Barnaby made page 48 last week. Alas, only my wife, Kirilly, tells me I’m handsome and I’m not sure I believe her, though I love her more for saying it. I didn’t win the university law medal, didn’t go to Oxford on a Rhodes scholarship to study philosophy or politics. I studied business but only after I saved enough for a deposit, took out a loan and bought my first home. Then I became a policeman and I was proud to be among those fine men and women in blue.

“Here’s what else I am. I’m a proud Australian. I know where I came from, a humble home outside Brisbane in Boondall, with hardworking parents Bruce and Ailsa. I know what I stand for, what the Liberal Party stands for and what we need to do together to make Australia great again. No Apologies to Mr Trump. What’s wrong with seeking greatness? We’ve tried mediocrity. We’ve been too timid. Something has been lost in the last decade or so. Let’s lift the bar. We can’t keep spending as if it doesn’t matter. We can’t keep borrowing money, wrecking our kids’ future.

“I learned about the dignity that comes from hard work as a kid mowing lawns, delivering newspapers, doing shifts in a butcher shop right through school. You earn your money and you should be entitled to keep more of it than you currently do because you know better how to spend it than government.

“When I was health minister, my critics called me the anti-health minister for trying to bring some common sense to the portfolio in order to build a sustainable and caring healthcare system in this country. As immigration minister, I was recently branded the anti-immigration minister (by a Fairfax journo of course) for controlling our borders, for stopping deaths at sea, for building confidence in our migration system.

“What’s next? The anti-prime minister? I’ll wear that too because I’m not afraid to say what too few say: values matter. Values signal where we’ve come from and where we’re headed, providing moral ballast along the way. I’m committed to making common sense more common. I’m going to call out political correctness and social engineers who presume to know you better than you do. And union leaders who are wedded to their own power rather than creating jobs.

“I’ll be checking in on the ABC too. It has a good charter and if it can’t follow it, refusing to represent all Australians, why should taxpayers pay its wages? I won’t be recanting what I said to business leaders: sure, throw your support behind social causes but respect shareholders by doing it on your own dime.

“And let me say something about our taxpayer-funded hum*an rights commissioners. Don’t divide the great nation. And don’t forget the most fundamental right of free speech: human flourishing over the course of Western civilisation didn’t come from censorship or protecting hurt feelings.

“As prime minister, I’m not expecting to be loved. My gorgeous wife and kids love me and that’s all I need. I know what I’m here to do. As prime minister, I will work every day to earn your respect. Thank you.” Tick. Or is it tick tock, given the self-indulgent, self-destruction in the Liberal Party at the hands of Abbott and Turnbull.

[malleefarmer]

This great man was 7 votes short of being prime minister now banished to back bench and may well retire at next election australian politics geeez