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What are we doing to our kids? . . . .

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  • parsley
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2000
    • 10986

    #21
    Land is your friend. 🙂

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    • sumdumguy
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 12017

      #22
      Originally posted by parsley View Post
      Land is your friend. 🙂
      Not if the socialists have their way.

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      • ajl
        Senior Member
        • May 2008
        • 3261

        #23
        Originally posted by parsley View Post
        Land is your friend. 🙂
        What are you going to do with land when no one can afford to buy your produce? At least you can hunt on it. Saw a bear last night headed into the bush NE of Edmonton.

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        • parsley
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2000
          • 10986

          #24
          Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
          Not if the socialists have their way.
          I don't think Farmers in western Canada will ever entertain landbanks again.

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          • parsley
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2000
            • 10986

            #25
            Originally posted by ajl View Post
            What are you going to do with land when no one can afford to buy your produce? At least you can hunt on it. Saw a bear last night headed into the bush NE of Edmonton.
            You can grow food. The ways things are going, there will be mass violence in the cities in Canada, with chilldren afraid to leave their homes.

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            • burnt
              Banned
              • Sep 2009
              • 3918

              #26
              Originally posted by parsley View Post
              Land is your friend. 🙂
              Well, sorta, in a prickly sorta way_

              Jeff Bogaerts from the latest “Landowner” magazine: “A trendy new phrase is the ‘Natural Heritage System’ or in layman’s terms, you own the land, pay the mortgage and taxes, but government tells you what you can and cannot do with your land. Neat trick, eh? I do not have to own something to control it. I just need to scare the pants off you with threats of monetary fines or imprisonment or both… the Conversation Authority Act provides for fines up to $10,000 per charge and 3 months in prison. Is this the kind of power and control you are willing to freely give to your government and elected officials?”

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              • parsley
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2000
                • 10986

                #27
                In Saskatchewan, burnt, many municipalities were told land owners had to start paying a portion of the education tax. School tax. Farmers individually grumbled. And paid. The tax rose. Farmers paid. Councillors noticed it and noted it and watched it grow. In our municipality, the tax portion rose to 80% that went to the prov Govt to pay for teachers raises and building schools, well, ed costs. Farmers had no representation at Teacher/Govt negotiations. Just there to pay the bills.

                We formed a committee. And called the prov Ed reps to a town hall meeting. I took official notes. Rural Councillers from diff municipalities were noticeably present. We politely brownbeat the Govt. at all diff. Municipality meetings.

                Moral of the story: levy decreased in every municipality.

                Hand-wringing was not effective with Govt slicks. Organized confrontation is. Pars
                Last edited by parsley; May 24, 2018, 09:54.

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                • parsley
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2000
                  • 10986

                  #28
                  Moral of the story from lessons learned:

                  -organized
                  -proactive
                  -need to do list
                  -watch list
                  -farmers
                  -power
                  In this day of conf calls, there is no driving.

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                  • burnt
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3918

                    #29
                    It is encouraging to hear accounts like that. It means that when things got bad enough, it was possible to find enough people to organize into an effective body.

                    What we - a small group of concerned and motivated individuals - have encountered here is that everyone appreciates the effort we put into effecting change, but very few will actually join into the actual work required.

                    Too busy, too "unqualified", too invested in the status quo...a thousand and one excuses. "But keep up the good work", they say.

                    Which could mean several things - not well enough organized, situation is not bad enough yet, those who are affected do not understand the extent of the in jury they will suffer, etc.

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                    • parsley
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2000
                      • 10986

                      #30
                      I should add that if was municipalities south of us that put the initial grunt work into it. Good stalwart men. We were the copy cat responders.

                      Farmers influence one another. pars

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