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  • Misterjade9
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 440

    #11
    Ladies and gentlemen, I believe we have just witnessed the greatest shell/con game ever perpetrated by a federal government and I don't know if it was strategy or shit house luck from ineptitude, let me explain. Justin Trudeau has always said pipelines can only be built with a social licence. Who better to grant that than the person controlling the purse strings, who will be controlling the money?, why the political party that has the moral high ground when it comes to the environment, at least that's what they tell us. This plays to his green enviro crowd supporters and he can now say to the pro oil crowd he delivered on building the pipeline and he has backed every conservative leaning government in this country into a corner. When the time comes for debate and a vote on federal funding for this pipeline the federal conservatives cannot possibly vote against it as the liberals will accuse them of being anti oil and anti pipeline. Winner, winner chicken dinner he keeps his core supporters and makes the conservatives and any others who dare to question the feds involvement in the project look like fools. The worst part of all this is there was a private company willing to spend it's own money.

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    • AlbertaFarmer5
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 12487

      #12
      Is this the beginning of NEP2.0? It was Trudeau senior who tried to nationalise energy resources the first time around. Perhaps this opportunity was just what they needed, and orchestrated?

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      • furrowtickler
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2004
        • 21856

        #13
        Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
        Is this the beginning of NEP2.0? It was Trudeau senior who tried to nationalise energy resources the first time around. Perhaps this opportunity was just what they needed, and orchestrated?
        The more the optics play out the more NEP2 is not only possible, but planned ?
        Time will tell

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        • binthere
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 593

          #14
          Big wheel you give way to much credit to Trudeau. Harper was to patient and Trudeau won't get it done either. To hear Stewart Phillip you will realise who holds the cards.

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          • the big wheel
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2017
            • 3860

            #15
            You may be right but at least right now isn't he saying he right things? Is all I m saying. Let's see how it plays out.

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            • ajl
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 3244

              #16
              Yes I think you guys are on to something. Leftists care only about their money and power. Ottawa and Edmonton will invest in the pipeline and with their share of the tolls bribe BC to go along. The Greens and NDP use this money to bribe their voters and every body is happy. After all the people that voted for BC's current government have to keep the welfare coming. Brilliant.

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              • Oliver88
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 4688

                #17
                Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
                Hahaha I don't care for the guy either but he said it's going through. And if the gov is on the hook what is it on he hook for? Will it be a failure? It's a guaranteed money printing venture. Maybe we should own it and get some money back out of the profits.

                Honestly you guys whine if he says no whine if he says yes. Right now it s the loser in bc holding this up period.
                Let's wait and see how this all turns out.

                It has to be embarrassing that Harper never did anything to make these projects work and how can it be that a liberal dipstick might just pull it off. Lol

                And by the way no answer about whether the more oil going out that way will it raise our domestic price?
                Because I know for sure there will be a shortage of welders mexhanixs truck drivers once that ramps up which will definitely mean what instead of 100 bucks an hour to get a welder out it will be 200 bucks and hour.

                And where will these labourers truckers come from? Pakistan India??
                Yes, having your boy Trudeau nationalize this pipeline would be right up your alley along with controlling the pricing....I’m sure that would work well. 🙈
                The point is Kinder Morgan would of paid for 100% of this pipeline, the federal government just has to enforce the laws and put an end to the illegal disruptions.

                Harper let the National Energy Board do its job unlike Trudeau who added moratoriums against oil tankers and added new upstream and downstream calculations for approvals.

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                • helmsdale
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 2127

                  #18
                  If business makes money, you tax it. If it still makes money you regulate the shit outta it. And when it quits making money and threatens to take its ball and go home, then of course you subsidize it!

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                  • foragefarmer
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 3482

                    #19
                    No pleasing the Agrivillers, complain pipelines not being built, complain pipeline (hopefully) being built. Complain government giving Kinder Morgan money now, but themselves have cashed government of Canada Ag Support program cheques.

                    Just wondering how any government of any strip could ever figure out exactly what it is that would please only two farmers in the room.

                    With the majority of you on here the issue is your Closet Boy Harpo and the PC's of Alberta couldn't get the job done and now that Trudeau and Notley "may" get it done has created one big burr in your asses.

                    Plain and simple your party never even came close to getting it started, so let's all bitch!

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                    • Hopalong
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 1244

                      #20
                      Some of us never seem to learn.
                      Who can forget the days when federal government subsidized railways to move grain to port while provincial governments paid us to keep it on prairies and feed it to livestock.

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