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  • bgmb
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 1645

    #11
    Originally posted by Klause View Post
    Argentina isn't Russia....


    Equipment gets used for much longer and holds valur much longer down there.

    ie. This Don Roque (Vasalli's smaller conventional combines) with 5000/ 4500 hours.
    https://www.agroads.com.ar/detalle.asp?clasi=499781 https://www.agroads.com.ar/detalle.asp?clasi=499781



    It's not unusual to find tractors with 25,000 hours and combines with 10,000-15,000... And not all that old year wise.


    One of the perks of a never ending growing season.... When your combine and seeder run almost every month of the year you get far better value out of them.
    And I know of guys who trade off combines with 140h lol I still think cheapest way is buy slightly used and run for 5-10 years.

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    • foragefarmer
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2014
      • 3482

      #12
      "Argentina isn't Russia.... "


      Very true, not hard to be Communist built garbage. I'll stick with equipment I can get parts for, especially during seeding and harvest.

      Time is money in my books regarding my farm. I would rather buy good used North American equipment than risking it on new foreign equipment. But to each their own.

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      • Klause
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 3644

        #13
        Bgmb and foragefarmer:



        It really doesn't matter what y'all run. Argentina is a huge and growing export competitor... When their iron and freight is less than half of ours who will survive low prices or low demand longer?



        Kinda what I'm getting at here...

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        • sumdumguy
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 11967

          #14
          May interest you that Cdn dollar = 15.6 Argentine Peso today. Peso coin kinda like toonie in picture-not sure the actual size.

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          • farmaholic
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 17471

            #15
            Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
            "Argentina isn't Russia.... "


            Very true, not hard to be Communist built garbage. I'll stick with equipment I can get parts for, especially during seeding and harvest.

            Time is money in my books regarding my farm. I would rather buy good used North American equipment than risking it on new foreign equipment. But to each their own.
            Amen forage

            or at least North American supported foreign equipment. Agco has stuff coming from all over, I believe every other North American brand has something coming from offshore as well but at least it's supported domestically. Although I have heard some rumor-mill horror stories about Iveco and Sisu replacement engine availability. Who knows what all else..... It's a world market and the world is alot smaller than it used to be.

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            • the big wheel
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2017
              • 3860

              #16
              Womdet what the price of
              Energy is there? Fuel and electricity?
              That's part of the problem here to start with. All this oil everywhere and we can't use that crazy cheap right here? Our economy would explode if we had half price fuel as other nations. Not to mention since our size of country is so vast what a difference it would mean for all of us.

              Instead some are so glossy eyed over oil being stupid price so some could have a stupid high paying job but the real growth would be if it were exactly reverse of what is happenning.

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              • bgmb
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 1645

                #17
                Well Klause we have versatile sprayers and combines here if you think cheaper equipment is the answer. At the end of the day if i spend 400,000k on a combine and plan to keep it for 5 years put 1200 hours on it all that matters is what those hours cost in terms of repairs and depreciation and how many $$ worth of grain it combined which would be around 6 million. I dont see where 150,000 usd for mini sized 250hp combine is a deal still needs a man and repairs.

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                • sumdumguy
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 11967

                  #18
                  Big Wheel, interesting take, you know while oil was spiking, (anything over $100 a barrel) I knew right then that everything was going to get thrown out of whack. Environmentalists spent all their time thinking of how they could nail big oil, the rest of the world dreamt up a "green" plot to extort the wealth from the West, billions and billions $ were poured into fuel-saving ideas, cars, insulation, even light bulbs. Some were even burning grain to stay warm. Can you imagine a world where oil had stayed in that $37/barrel range and we never had to go through this phase? What a monster we created!

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                  • furrowtickler
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 21856

                    #19
                    Originally posted by bgmb View Post
                    Well Klause we have versatile sprayers and combines here if you think cheaper equipment is the answer. At the end of the day if i spend 400,000k on a combine and plan to keep it for 5 years put 1200 hours on it all that matters is what those hours cost in terms of repairs and depreciation and how many $$ worth of grain it combined which would be around 6 million. I dont see where 150,000 usd for mini sized 250hp combine is a deal still needs a man and repairs.
                    Well for $400,000 here in Canada your getting what ? Class 6 , maybe a great deal on a new class 7 ?
                    Klause was simply giving us info , seems to be a horrible thing to do on this site lol

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                    • SASKFARMER3
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 14485

                      #20
                      BMG you really are not getting this equipment thing are you.

                      We are getting totally screwed on equipment.

                      Hell i could buy what 7 or 8 of these instead of three Deere and probably finish harvesting two weeks ahead of what i am now.

                      Equipment is a joke in North America and as long as guys fly the flag of Boy scouts and dont open their eyes to reality we cant compete in todays ag when Eastern Europe and South america are handing us our lunch.

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