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    #41
    The problem is we justify what's going on in Canada by looking at other countries like mentioned above....that's where we are heading....a race the bottom....


    That's different thinking and explains why we have the problems we have.....because it could be worse.....

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      #42
      Originally posted by bucket View Post
      The problem is we justify what's going on in Canada by looking at other countries like mentioned above....that's where we are heading....a race the bottom....


      That's different thinking and explains why we have the problems we have.....because it could be worse.....
      Ya.........and my old man tells me when I complain too much...."It's never so bad that it couldn't be worse"!

      Even at the "other" places.

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        #43
        Argentina has free university for citizens. Public healthcare like here, plus a private user pay system if you'd rather go to an ethnic hospital (English, German).


        Cost of living is a quarter of here.


        We left for fear of safety because of over reaching government and terrorism... Wait a minute...


        My uncle stayed behind... The wealth he has built in the last 20 years is amazing. Nobody could have predicted the power of the soybean. When I was 5 land in Argentina was $100/ha.

        That same land today is $6,000-9000 a ha.


        They used to have two ports to export grain and barely produced more than they consumed. Today the country feeds half a billion people exports from 26 ports. Dredged 300km of river.

        Canada was a great country... Still is... But it's in steady decline. The lack of statesmen with a vision, the need for frills" and poor planning. The lack of industrial development.


        In the 1940s Argentina was an oil exporter. Successive governments said it was unnecessary. The industry crumbled to where they were a net energy importer.


        Only today are they realizing the potential of their energy resources.

        Again... Canada is a great country... But unless we start doing something to sloe the decline it won't be for our kids and grandkids.

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          #44
          Must be money in farming, neighbour pointed out last night block of land 15 miles south of me, 18 quarters of land for $16 million. To me this price is ludicrous must be targeting Hutterites!

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            #45
            Lol what kind of utopia do you guys think farming should be? Grain companies are supposed to build concrete and port storage to store and export the entire canadian crop in 2 months? Totally unrealistic to me but hey its a free country

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              #46
              Originally posted by bgmb View Post
              Lol what kind of utopia do you guys think farming should be? Grain companies are supposed to build concrete and port storage to store and export the entire canadian crop in 2 months? Totally unrealistic to me but hey its a free country
              Um... The US does it.

              Europe does it.


              South America does it.

              Australia does it.

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                #47
                Originally posted by bgmb View Post
                Lol what kind of utopia do you guys think farming should be? Grain companies are supposed to build concrete and port storage to store and export the entire canadian crop in 2 months? Totally unrealistic to me but hey its a free country

                Uhm....Yes and here is why.

                1. grain companies can build cheaper on a per bushel basis.
                2. they turn them more
                3. the grain is one step closer to movement to port and gives them time to blend the customer requirements.
                4. like Klause said everyone else is doing it....even cargill in the states does it....this isn't foreign territory to them. But why if farmers are willing to build them the storage for SFA.

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                  #48
                  US on farm storage 13.45 Billion bu
                  US off farm storage 11.24 Billion bu

                  https://www.agriculture.com/markets/newswire/us-crop-storage-capacity-increased-in-2017-as-supplies-grew https://www.agriculture.com/markets/newswire/us-crop-storage-capacity-increased-in-2017-as-supplies-grew

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                    #49
                    If I have possession of my grain I maintain some control. One example, 2016 durum, held over, wasn't happy with $4.40 offer (and less) last year, held it and ended up with $6.75 last fall. Then there's canola. You only have to pay for the bin once and it's there to use many times over! I use it like a marketing tool like guys who like ****ing around in the futures and options market, although they have no investment.

                    Everyone has to figure out what works best for themselves. What I do may not suit someone else. To each their own.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by farming101 View Post
                      US on farm storage 13.45 Billion bu
                      US off farm storage 11.24 Billion bu

                      https://www.agriculture.com/markets/newswire/us-crop-storage-capacity-increased-in-2017-as-supplies-grew https://www.agriculture.com/markets/newswire/us-crop-storage-capacity-increased-in-2017-as-supplies-grew
                      That's the entire corn crop in commercial facilities.

                      And since corn and soybeans are not harvested at exactly the same time the system can move grain better. ...although their crops don't have 18 segregations. ...or 8 different crops....

                      Let's see Canada's stats. ...

                      I doubt Canadian grain cos could hold a quarter of the wheat crop produced here....
                      Last edited by bucket; Mar 7, 2018, 09:26.

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