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  • Bowerpower
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 203

    #11
    Originally posted by Klause View Post
    Same here. Worried about their future.


    North American society is on a fast track to a collapse.

    I know of four well five with you, young farmers looking abroad...
    Good to hear that I’m not the only one....
    maybe I’m not that crazy as some seem to think nothing but lollipops and sunshine farming here...

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    • farmaholic
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 17483

      #12
      Originally posted by Bowerpower View Post
      Good to hear that I’m not the only one....
      maybe I’m not that crazy as some seem to think nothing but lollipops and sunshine farming here...
      Best thing about farming here is the "cheap" land. Easy port access. World class shipping to port. Tonnes and tonnes of independent machinery dealers 30-50 miles apart. And extreme competition between suppliers of goods and services to the farming sector.

      PUKE.

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      • SASKFARMER3
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2006
        • 14485

        #13
        And in Canada One Fert Supplier two Chemical companies one JD Dealer and two rail roads with a bunch of taxes for every thing. No property rights etc.

        Compare the two who is wining and who is going bye bye.

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        • chuckChuck
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 12977

          #14
          Originally posted by SASKFARMER3 View Post
          And in Canada One Fert Supplier two Chemical companies one JD Dealer and two rail roads with a bunch of taxes for every thing. No property rights etc.

          Compare the two who is wining and who is going bye bye.
          Why are you guys complaining about market concentration and a growing lack of competition in the ag input and marketing sectors? Isn't that what you wanted, a free market where the market decides where resources are allocated? Isn't that the foundation of capitalism?

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          • Klause
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 3644

            #15
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            Why are you guys complaining about market concentration and a growing lack of competition in the ag input and marketing sectors? Isn't that what you wanted, a free market where the market decides where resources are allocated? Isn't that the foundation of capitalism?
            These super large corporations would not exist in a free market.


            They exist because they have manipulated our governments through subsidy and taxation schemes and these bizarre one sided trade agreements...


            These super large corps have no ability to stand on their own legal without government help.


            Do you think Monsanto or pioneer would be as big as they are if upov91 didn't exist ?

            A capitalist capitalizes current and future opportunities. Don't blame the company blame the governments that allow such things to happen

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            • chuckChuck
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 12977

              #16
              Originally posted by Klause View Post
              These super large corporations would not exist in a free market.


              They exist because they have manipulated our governments through subsidy and taxation schemes and these bizarre one sided trade agreements...


              These super large corps have no ability to stand on their own legal without government help.


              Do you think Monsanto or pioneer would be as big as they are if upov91 didn't exist ?

              A capitalist capitalizes current and future opportunities. Don't blame the company blame the governments that allow such things to happen
              I think if you look at who opposed UPOV 91 and who supported it you will find it was the free market oriented farm groups and business interests who said we need Upov91 to increase investment.

              I agree that governments are often complicit in supporting concentration and power in the hands of corporations. But many farm groups have argued strongly to get government out of the way and let the market work without intervention.

              In a competitive free market businesses are always trying to increase market share and put the competitors out of business so they can increase profits for their shareholders. What would stop that from happening in an unregulated marketplace?

              And are you fully ready to accept Chinese and Saudi ownership of key Canadian resources and industries? Unrestricted foreign ownership?

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              • farmaholic
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 17483

                #17
                I'm too old to move and start over. Besides I'm established here. But I can't help to think that my Great Grand Father left what he knew to risk taking an opportunity to make a new home and life for his family in a foreign land. Starting and expanding a farm in Western Canada has become difficult compared to just ten years ago.

                Got to wonder if going as a group and settling in the same area would be beneficial....cultural and familiarity to support each other.

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                • bucket
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 17033

                  #18
                  Yerry sold whatever assets of a grain marketer to the Saudis for nothing zero dollars. ...

                  So while we expensed bullets fighting their war they built assets in Canada. ...brilliant hey?


                  Who were the cheerleaders of towels?

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                  • newguy
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 2145

                    #19
                    [QUOTE=Klause;367194]Many of you go vacationing... I really really suggest putting Argentina in your list. Cheaper than here safer than Mexico and a lot more to see and do in a friendly culture.


                    https://youtu.be/WnXVP4m0XoY[/QU Our resort in Mexico was half full of people from Argentina.

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                    • DaneG
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 274

                      #20
                      That move would be one hell of a cattle drive and make an interesting tv reality show

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