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Does a Carbon Tax work?

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  • Hamloc
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 3930

    #31
    Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    Sure, and no population growth or housing growth or any other growth that would use more carbon between 2008 and 2014 either right Hamloc. And if you forgot, we had a recession in 2009 that also impacted the oil industry. And are you actually claiming it is only the oil industry that contributes to CO2. So if the oil industry revenue was halved, why did BC economy keep growing? Talk about cherry picking data.
    I was simply demonstrating that not all aspects of BC's economy improved. I was also pointing out that a carbon tax hurts oil and gas production which will concern some others it will not. As for BC's economy I would say real estate appreciation has contributed a great deal to their economic growth. BC's carbon tax originally was revenue neutral. Personal and corporate taxes were reduced to compensate for revenue from the carbon tax. Now that the NDP are in power this is no longer the case. There are no revenue neutral carbon taxes in Canada now. Just a money grab. As for emissions, no I am not claiming that it is only the oil industry contributing to C02 emissions. In fact if you go on the one sight you will see that emissions from transportation rose through the whole time period and continue to do so.

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    • GDR
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2016
      • 1659

      #32
      Originally posted by Horse View Post
      Just got my gas bill for nov for house heating natural gas carbon tax $2.22. I think even sask3 could afford that.
      Don't forget the carbon tax goes up to $30/ton next month. Eventually to $50. That makes your Nov amount $5.55. Maybe not much but that's only one month and only one of many instances where you have to pay extra for something you can not do without. All ads up and like others mentioned how has your consumption changed?

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      • burnt
        Banned
        • Sep 2009
        • 3918

        #33
        Originally posted by GDR View Post
        Don't forget the carbon tax goes up to $30/ton next month. Eventually to $50. That makes your Nov amount $5.55. Maybe not much but that's only one month and only one of many instances where you have to pay extra for something you can not do without. All ads up and like others mentioned how has your consumption changed?

        But isn't that nice? All adds up is right!

        And the more people who pay that $5.55/month, the more trips climate barbie can take jetting around the world to exotic locations for "climate conferences!!!

        See, your tax dollars at work!

        Bwahahahaha!
        Last edited by burnt; Dec 15, 2017, 12:28.

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        • redleaf
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 380

          #34
          In the case of B.C. it’s kind of a “do as I say not do as I do” or maybe a “ shoot shovel and shut up” situation.

          https://dogwoodbc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Coal-BCs-Dirty-Secret-web.pdf

          I have also read reports that Vancouver is adding capacity for loading coal on to ships to facilitate shipping American coal which is not allowed to be loaded on to ships leaving the U.S.
          Last edited by redleaf; Dec 15, 2017, 10:10.

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          • fjlip
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2002
            • 9822

            #35
            How nice, screw with data, figures, only way to BAFFLE/SCARE the public into their agenda...
            ALL the facts are NOT what they seem!

            For its emissions target, the BC government does not include the emissions from the burning of coal mined here. Mining, processing, transporting and burning BC coal produce a staggering amount of heat-trapping pollution. The total global pollution from BC coal in 2008—a total of 61.4 million tonnes
            —almost doubles BC’s reported contribution to global warming.

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            • furrowtickler
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2004
              • 21887

              #36
              Hmmm , imagine that

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              • ColevilleH2S
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1645

                #37
                Originally posted by fjlip View Post
                How nice, screw with data, figures, only way to BAFFLE/SCARE the public into their agenda...
                ALL the facts are NOT what they seem!

                For its emissions target, the BC government does not include the emissions from the burning of coal mined here. Mining, processing, transporting and burning BC coal produce a staggering amount of heat-trapping pollution. The total global pollution from BC coal in 2008—a total of 61.4 million tonnes
                —almost doubles BC’s reported contribution to global warming.
                For perspective, all greenhouse gas emissions produced by SaskPower electrical generation equal 15 million tonnes annually.

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                • Oliver88
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 4688

                  #38
                  Originally posted by fjlip View Post
                  How nice, screw with data, figures, only way to BAFFLE/SCARE the public into their agenda...
                  ALL the facts are NOT what they seem!

                  For its emissions target, the BC government does not include the emissions from the burning of coal mined here. Mining, processing, transporting and burning BC coal produce a staggering amount of heat-trapping pollution. The total global pollution from BC coal in 2008—a total of 61.4 million tonnes
                  —almost doubles BC’s reported contribution to global warming.
                  Classic cherry picking by climate alarmists. 😂

                  So what was the point of this whole thread?

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                  • Hamloc
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 3930

                    #39
                    Just read on CBC news sight an announcement from Environment minister Catherine McKenna that provinces will now have until the end of 2018 to implement a new carbon tax. So according to all the climate alarmists the threat from global warming is imminent but all of a sudden there is no rush for the carbon tax. Just confirms for me that the implementation of the carbon tax is more about politics than it is about science!!!! Election 2019 the Lieberals are a little worried.

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                    • SASKFARMER3
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 14485

                      #40
                      Say No to Trudeau is now starting to take effect 2019 is close for that putz to go.

                      Politics is a dirty sport

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