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  • sk_wheatking
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 898

    #11
    I'm just wondering whatever happened to our green initiative regarding biofuels? The government wants it and we can supply the canola for bio diesel and the wheat for ethanol while at the same time shorting the canola crush market for Cargill and Richardson and the like for their oil crush outfits thereby raising commodity prices because they are now forced to compete with biofuel ? Maybe I'm stupid.

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    • tweety
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 3059

      #12
      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
      Wrong ... put it into soil and plant health.
      That will reduce fertilizer and the need for fungicide..
      Sarcasm did a fly by lol.

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      • ajl
        Senior Member
        • May 2008
        • 3245

        #13
        Trouble is that no one would recognize a free market these days since it has not been around since the 60's. Why is debt so high and interest rates so low? Never exist under a free market. Central banks are manipulating this market by printing money. Reality is that free markets are long gone around the world so then everyone is a hypocrite. What would you do if your land values drop in half tomorrow. Some areas in the US such as central and western portions of Kansas and Nebraska that has already happened. (albeit from ridiculous levels). So while I am in favor of letting markets do their thing, I am certainly not confident of survival should they do that. If AG craps the bed like the energy sector, what are people in Canuckistan going to be doing? Yes we are pumping more oil that ever before, but do to less investment that will decline over the next few years. Nothing is viable in Canuckistan due to excessive regulation, poor geography and climate, and east vs west disfunction.

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        • GDR
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2016
          • 1659

          #14
          Totally agree AB5. It doesn't end with grain marketing either. As a group farmers complain about rents and land prices yet everyone keeps putting their $$ up and pushing prices further. Same story on machinery prices, do you think prices would stay where they are if farmers didn't line up to get the first order on the new model in your neighborhood. Do we really need all the bells and whistles on the machines of today. Dealer told me it's pretty tough to sell anything not fully loaded up, if it's got all the bells and whistles they can't keep them in Stock.

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          • bucket
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 17027

            #15
            Went to auto dealerships looking for regular cab 3/4 ton plain jane truck for farm and they say no one wants them... how about used ....can't keep them on the lot... go figure.


            Not sure about everyone else here but once I get combine set for a crop I rarely change anything but I could stop and do it manually and not lose much time....

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            • sumdumguy
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 11977

              #16
              Originally posted by tweety View Post
              Sarcasm did a fly by lol.


              I got t Tweety, and I agree. We love to overproduce and then complain about the costs - that's for sure. All in favour of cheap food, say "ai" 👍

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              • AlbertaFarmer5
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 12521

                #17
                Why do I get the impression that some of these responders didn't read ( or at least comprehend) what I wrote. Do you think that our government should force a government of a foreign country to force their agricultural sector to buy our products at a price which is profitable for us, regardless of what local producers can sell for, or other importers prices. This would be akin to our beloved Trudeau forcing us to buy all of our N fertilizer from his favorite middle eastern terrorist states, at well above world prices, while our local manufacturers are unable to sell their product to us. That would go over like a ton of bricks.

                Regardless if we operate in a complete free market, or a strict command economy, somehow producers need to get the signal to decrease production when there is an oversupply. All of your proposals run counter to that. The market is telling us we grew too much, grow less next year, until supply and demand are back into balance. Doesn't mean we are going to enjoy it.

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                • furrowtickler
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 21884

                  #18
                  Originally posted by sk_wheatking View Post
                  I'm just wondering whatever happened to our green initiative regarding biofuels? The government wants it and we can supply the canola for bio diesel and the wheat for ethanol while at the same time shorting the canola crush market for Cargill and Richardson and the like for their oil crush outfits thereby raising commodity prices because they are now forced to compete with biofuel ? Maybe I'm stupid.
                  I wonder the same thing , would it not be a good fit into the green climate change agenda ? It’s like bio fuel in Canada has been swept under the rug , when the Liberals should be endorsing it .

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                  • the big wheel
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 3860

                    #19
                    When you throw a 50% tax on a commodity over supply isn't the issue. I don't know why this over supply bullshit is being promoted it isn't the case. People are starving there and many other countries besides India. There are other issues where government deals decide the incomes of those people. Better incomes for them better prices and they don't starve. Almost every year they throw out destroy peas and lentils they produce and buy because they don't have the infrastructure to destribute and kit enough people have money to buy. So there is a whole lot more to this than supply. Are they not taking the peas that are moving now at 6.00? Yes they are but when you add the tarriff to it they re paying as much or more for it.

                    Once again Some on here are trying to bullshit that we are the problem we are not the problem. Do you want me to start doing a chucky and print off pages and pages of examples of our pulse groups and wheat groups expressing this endless demand that is out there so grow pulses?

                    Hahaha.

                    Stop funding the check offs and start a fund for boots on the ground marketers for us in these countries. Fund a lobby to our government to have trade deals that restrict 50% tariffs etc. Develope a program of providing food as aid instead of money to many countries we are already sending money to. Then we ll live and die by demand and supply. But not in this one sided corrupt bullshit that has been going on here for ever.

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                    • bucket
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 17027

                      #20
                      Closed loop production systems can't be compared to agriculture production.....weather doesn't impact production of fertilizer.....

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