End of the Week Thursday Report.

[dykercaseih]

I put on my nitrogen with nh3 so that will never change, but I can float in front of that application all my phos and sufur every 2 to 4 years to super size those macros.. Then run starter ortho phos (624) through drill in seed row to get that instant quick jump with no compaction.. For me the seed savings would just be an addes bonus on top of a bonus.. With this machine you don't even need an additional liquid caddy which is very nice and easy for farmers to move to a liquid ortho scenario with ease...
This past year all my phos went on as 624 and folair and never really ate into my levels much.. Still every 3 to 4 years supersizing things would work really nice with this system.. Anyway when I saw your pics I knew you were thinking the exact same thing I was. I am done with mid row banders and all that crap, endless issues and not too mention costly to pull and fix!

[SASKFARMER3]

Thats the thing what we use is a huge heavy drill, lots of HP needed, Diesel burnt and more money than this.

[furrowtickler]

We were sure impressed with our Horsch
Really don’t see a need to go over 2.1 lbs with 5 to 6 gram seed.
Tried at 1 lb , 1.5 and 2.1 lbs per acre .

After 4 side by sides with our drill , BG 8910 , yield was virtually the same.
Maturity was 4-5 days earlier with the Horsch in all side by sides all year.
Canola established very fast and the cotyledons were much larger.
Kugler 624 of Alpine G22 works great
Love the independent row shut off and built in sectional for the liquid phos .
Added liquid innoculant to the liquid phos for the soybeans . You have 4-5 hrs to seed that out , not an issue though .
Soybean yields were higher with the planter at 170,000 seeds / ac
Need 300 hp or so to seed at 7.5 to 8.5 mph .
We were averaging 35-40 ac / hr .
Emergence was perfect from 6 to 8.5 mph.

If using a FWA , make sure lots of front weights .
If anyone has any questions fire away ..

[furrowtickler]

We put all our N down with the sprayer with stream nozzles . Nice to utilize the sectional control on the sprayer for that .
Put on 60 lbs before seeding and 40 to 60 after weed control depending on pea stubble or wheat stubble . Put liquid sulfur down with round up at pre burn .
Zero tire compaction issues in wet areas .

[4GFarms]

Furrow, How do they work in stones? Are they independent trip?

[dykercaseih]

I am wetter then you Furrow so would still need to do a pass with nh3 unit then a Kelly pass then seed. But if I was dry like you I think your approach is perfect.
This is the tool that makes so much sense to me for savings and to take the next step again.. I have a 76s foot BGs and every pass your sacrificing 25 feet in the middle as we are always so wet. Add my liquid cart behind and I had foot ruts and getting stuck issues the first 3 days of seeding..
This thing checks everything for me in regards to small seeds and maybe even bigger seeds..
So you actually went 8.5 mph with it? 1000 gallon kugler tank putting on 4.5 gallons or even 6, it would be nothing to come up to it with a 3200 gallon chaser tank and blow in 1000 gallons and off you go!

I never made it to red deer but planned to really look into it at Saskatoon show..

[furrowtickler]

4GFarms - yes independent trip
Yes we did try 8 plus mph , but the FWA 8310 JD we had did not have enough weight up front and would start to bounce over 7.5. Actually did not like that tractor at all .
We did a speed trial at 2.1 lbs / ac .
One pass at 6 mph , 7 and 8 . There was zero difference in seeding accuracy , establishment or yield .
We toured a field with Horsch a year ago in South Dakota where the farmer seeded at 11 mph . Establishment was near perfect .
My brother ran the drill and as long as you had 5 gram or larger seed the seed rate stayed near perfect up to the 8.5 mph.
The rates would only fluctuate if the seed size was smaller , below 5 or if the seed had dusty seed treatment. We had a bag of Syngenta canola that was awful dusty and the seed rate was all over the map.
The monitor was excellent to read the rate of each row . A nice polished seed treatment on 5 gram or larger seed was near perfect on the monitor at all speeds.
Stay away from any dusty or small tkw seed lots.

We did a N fert trial this fall , one on 160 ac pea stubble and one on 320 ac wheat stubble .
On the pea stubble we did 50 ac of NH3 , 60 ac liquid N with stream nozzles , and 50 ac of Super U floated on , then ran the Gates coulter harrow over all of it .
On the wheat stubble we did 100 ac liquid N , 50 ac NH3 with an N stabilizer and 50 ac without , and 100 ac of super U floated on ... and ran the coulter harrow over that as well.
We used a liquid N stabilizer with all the 28-0-0 called Contain from Ag Explore .
The N stabilizer with the 28 by far the cheapest, followed by the NH3 with Stabilizer and the most expensive was the super U .
We matched the N rates all the same .
Basically want to see what works best for us . Using our own sprayer would be best if the numbers are there next fall. NH3 works but it’s slow and the N stabilizer is 3x the liquid N stabilizer cost.
Super U is very expensive and there is the extra cost of getting it floated on.
Time will tell I guess, I will do a tissue test at full cabbage to see what’s happening between the treatments.

[furrowtickler]

I think if you have a lot of rock it may not be the ideal machine . Or simply just slow down over rocky areas or ridges .
You can also adjust the down pressure on the go if need be.
We did have a few issues but Horsch has been good to deal with them so far.
We do not have the trash cleaners on ours . If you are gong to zero till or even just light harrow the would be recommended.
It was not an issue for us , the Gates coulter harrow worked just fine for trash control the fall before.

[Klause]

[URL="https://www.agroads.com.ar/detalle.asp?clasi=303844"]I'm waiting for somebody to import one of these and go It's the new thing it's awesome. LOL.[/URL]

[dykercaseih]

Import what?