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Cheryl Gallant Was The Only MP To Vote Against Paris Agreement Motion

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  • the big wheel
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2017
    • 3860

    #11
    It is a good question to ask though. Why did the conservatives vote this way?

    I d like an answer directly from them. Do they have access to something else scientific studies? Is it a strategic voting move- they don't believe it but feel Canadians won't vote for them if they don't? What is the reason. If this is the way it's going to be they just lost a lot of support because this was an issue they gained support on.

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    • chuckChuck
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 12696

      #12
      Originally posted by stubblejumper View Post
      The flat earth society is alive and well
      In the Conservative party?

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      • SASKFARMER3
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2006
        • 14485

        #13
        No boys i know the world is round

        most of the surface is covered with water.

        We have four seasons in Canada.

        Some places have basically one like hawaii its always nice.

        Hurricane happened since time began and guess what the climate changes from season to season.

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        • chuckChuck
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 12696

          #14
          Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
          It is a good question to ask though. Why did the conservatives vote this way?

          I d like an answer directly from them. Do they have access to something else scientific studies? Is it a strategic voting move- they don't believe it but feel Canadians won't vote for them if they don't? What is the reason. If this is the way it's going to be they just lost a lot of support because this was an issue they gained support on.
          The reality is there are lots of conservatives that believe in the science of climate change and are supportive of trying to cut carbon emissions and trying to slow down climate change. Many have reservations about using a carbon tax as they are worried about losing resource jobs and the impact on the economy. A carbon tax is favored by some over regulations because it is considered more of a market based approach.

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          • Klause
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 3644

            #15
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            The reality is there are lots of conservatives that believe in the science of climate change and are supportive of trying to cut carbon emissions and trying to slow down climate change. Many have reservations about using a carbon tax as they are worried about losing resource jobs and the impact on the economy. A carbon tax is favored by some over regulations because it is considered more of a market based approach.

            Or we could build out massive infrastructure called dams and have cheap green power in perpetuity... But that doesn't redistribute wealth or appease climate change wingnuts

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            • checking
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 2391

              #16
              I don't worry about alarmists. When unmanageable temperature doesn't occur as preached, they will just substitute out climate change with another doomsday word in front of alarmist. You won't even hear an...oops!, from that group.

              The ones that need help are the band wagon followers.

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              • Jay-mo
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 730

                #17
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                This post is about the Conservatives who have voted to stay in the Paris accord. Climate change deniers have lost. Move on
                But then this argument isn't really scientific...........

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                • blackpowder
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 9231

                  #18
                  "
                  Or we could build out massive infrastructure called dams and have cheap green power in perpetuity... But that doesn't redistribute wealth or appease climate change wingnuts"

                  Klause is right. BC is even considering stopping their dam project half finished.
                  Hiding behind all the good intentions are the greedy and the selfish. End result its always been about the money.
                  From the people who want more (people opposed to projects) to the govt who is putting more in general revenue (carbon tax).
                  Cant wait for some eager beaver on here to show where all new revenue actually being spent.

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                  • chuckChuck
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 12696

                    #19
                    Hydro is a good option. Canada has a lot of hydro capacity already. Every new hydro project should be evaluated on its' own merits. We should be looking at all options based on economics and environmental risks and benefits. That's why wind and solar are on the table where it makes sense.

                    Many people think it is a black and white decision. Either you are in favor of renewables and opposed to fossil sources or opposed to renewables and in favor of fossil energy. For the time being we are all dependent on both if you consider that Canada is a major hydro producer and using a lot of coal in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Nova Scotia.

                    We shouldn't be retrofitting or building any new coal electrical generation in Saskatchewan or Alberta. Gas is abundant and being wasted in the oil industry with a large number of flares. Convert the coal plants to gas as an interim measure to reduce carbon emissions. Its much cheaper than carbon capture and storage so says Sask Power.

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                    • seabass
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 825

                      #20
                      Good for her. Too bad the others cave to the bullshit

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