Time for Cdn farmers to stand up for our grain grading system!

[wmoebis]

Any NFU supporter I knew was an NDP, CWB, SGEU save the whales dingdong. Just another outfit looking for membership fees.

Not a member of either org but can't the same be said about WCWGA all being CPC members?

[HappyFarmer]

Remember my comments about the "magic grates"....how things mysteriously change as grain passes through them. Or statements made about how durum shipped from the country into port terminals is loaded on ships as higher grades....likely more than can be accounted for in blending opportunities. "Buying on specs"....what's that. Maybe we need to fix the problems at home before complicating things with import wheat bought then sold for export.

Why would an American want to sell wheat in Canada? Exchange sucks. Roads suck. Logistics can suck. Grading can suck.

I mentioned the lowest common denominator in other posts. I think we may have enough trouble maintaining a marketing edge as it is without "dumbing down" our "perceived" quality advantage.

We even/already created more "classes" of wheat in our grading system to try and maintain quality standards that I bet will never get adhered to by shippers. That lower cheaper class of wheat that was once part of the highest class will be blended with the class above it. How much red winter do you think gets blended in?

Bang on farma!

Look at the CGC specs in a No 2 CWRS. Your allowed up to 5% CNHR ( faller, Prosper etc) in a No 2 spec. 2.5 % CWSP (Pasteur's etc)

It's all on the CGC website. You can look it up for yourself.

The opt Ed is completely off base...he is putting to much faith in our system.

We are buying grain from farmers and exporting it on a completely different set of standards...doesn't make an ounce of sense.

Honestly putting more money into organizations like CIGI, is the direction we need to go, not relying on our so called "high standards" The Americans are putting ridiculous amounts of money into organizations similar to CIGI and it's starting to hurt us on the world stage.

[farming101]

The article says farms in Canada can add $70/tonne because of high quality. The trouble is we get $66/tonne taken off for inefficiency. Net gain - about $4/tonne

In the 2016 calendar year Comtrade reported that Canadian wheat of all classes and grades averaged 228.61USD/tonne. US sales averaged 224.08USD/tonne. If you convert Canada's sales to CAD I guess it would be about $70/tonne more

[bucket]

The CGC was gutted so independent labs could be set up and more than likely the government could claim the 100 million taken from farmers.... back to general revenue....

By government policy it made look like there was a business case for what the CGC was suppose to be doing therefore it could be put into private hands....potential board seat....


Who started that policy of gutting the CGC....????


And who the **** thought of adding more wheat classes....has anyone tested the gluten strength of the downgraded varieties this year?

[the big wheel]

Stop making sense Bucket, because I don't think it is allowed from farmers. It makes a mockery of our system shame on you!!
You make it sound as if no one has our best interest at heart and that isn't true they all say they do all the time so just stop this it's confusing.

[Hamloc]

To my knowledge the 2 most important criteria when you sell wheat into the export market falling number and protein. Canada's grading system only applies in Canada. As for Americans shipping wheat Canada, very rare this is a paying proposition.

[15444]

True true. Agriculture is so segmented in representation amongst the different sectors. Nfu tries to represent all but politics are too left for most. Really I wonder how big their membership really is? Aren't Ontario farmers forced to be members? Anyone I know who supported them were the ndp guys.

Only one guy here, out of a few hundred farmers, was ever a member and he didn't last long farming. BSE finished him off.

[15444]

No, as I understand it farmers in Ontario have to pay an annual "farm business registration fee" and they get to decide whether it goes to the NFU, the Ontario Federation of Agriculture or the Christian Farmers Federation of Agriculture.

Pay annual FBR fee of $150 and then do written request for refund once approved. About 1/4 of locals belong to OFA, 1/4 Christian Farmers and 1/2 do a refund request, so no affiliation. We go refund route. Majority people in those oganized groups are just whiners that like to smell their own farts. They have never been successful in lobbying anything of any real importance to real farmers.

[Kinger]

Article is all speculation on a worst case scenario that will never happen.

CGC is in place to help secure Canadian export revenue. No government liberal or conservative will put that at risk.

Want to buy wheat from somewhere but they don't have a grading system so your not sure what your really buying. Why not buy from Canada where there CGC and CFIA inspect and regulate the grading of our wheat to a set standard.

CGC will never be dismantled. Will likely be changed as the grain industry does too but never dismantled like the article claims it will.

[grassfarmer]

.... About 1/4 of locals belong to OFA, 1/4 Christian Farmers and 1/2 do a refund request, so no affiliation......

...And then there are the thousands of Ontario farmers who direct their funds to the NFU.

Article is all speculation on a worst case scenario that will never happen.

That's awfully trusting of the politicians. When the news item this is based on was about US and Canadian corporate interests lobbying to make changes to the Canada Grain Act perhaps producers should be paying attention to what's going on?

Maybe they want to remove a few words from paragraph 13 of the Grain act?

Objects of the Commission
13 Subject to this Act and any directions to the Commission issued from time to time under this Act by the Governor in Council or the Minister, the Commission shall, in the interests of the grain producers, establish and maintain standards of quality for Canadian grain and regulate grain handling in Canada, to ensure a dependable commodity for domestic and export markets.


The crucial words in there being "in the interests of grain producers". What if the lobbyists are seeking to remove these words? Is any other farm organisation looking out for farmers interests on this issue?