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  • helmsdale
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 2127

    #11
    The Liberal gov't has long said that carbon taxation was only part of the plant, likely even the smallest part of the plan. In order to meet emission requirements environment Canada told McKenna a levy of at least $100/Mt would need to be brought in no later than 2020 to meet 2030 targets. To meet 2050 targets that number would have to rise between $100-200 further. Leaving us with a levy worth between $200-300/Mt. That's somewhere between $0.50 and $0.75 per L on diesel or $10-15/GJ on nat gas. Obviously those sorts or prices would be untenable for a democratically elected government, so the plan all along has been to implement a modest carbon tax, and bring about the remainder through gov't regulation. Renewable mandates and subsidies, forced fossil fuel power plant closures, and regulations on nearly every aspect of life. I'm reminded of a leaked Ontario proposal to mandate 2nd family vehicles be electric. New home heating coming from electric rather than natural gas. New insulation standards in new home construction.

    Even things related to new infrastructure can only go so far. Sooner or later older vehicles won't be able to be sold to anyone, or perhaps even registered. Old homes won't pass inspection without significant upgrades. Who knows how far it can go. The idea is to essentially make the costs of changing behaviour indirect. Make no mistake though It's still going to cost us immensely one way or the other.

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    • furrowtickler
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 21890

      #12
      Same will go with any powered farm machinery . Anything pre tier 4 will become scrap iron , shortly .
      Sad thing is we are one of the only industries in the world that are unable to pass on the increased costs of this and all the multiple carbon tax's headed our way .

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      • seabass
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 825

        #13
        How the **** are they gonna figure out how to tax us if we are freezing our asses off in the next 10,20 or 30 years. They don't know how to forecast the weather next week never mind whats gonna happen in 2030. Why don't they just say we gotta pay a tax to keep all the deadbeats and freeloaders alive so they can mark an X on the ballot for the one who's can promise the most free shit. **** I hate dumb people. Or worse yet dumb people who think we are to dumb to see through there bullshit.

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        • TASFarms
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 1341

          #14
          If the liberals get all these taxes that they are proposing. Why work.

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          • bucket
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 17027

            #15
            I like the latest tax grab they came up with.....taxing employee discounts.....so what do you think of the Ford commercials now justine and bill. ?

            That special only comes on once in a while....how they going to police that ....and why go after hard working autoworkers....that live on government bailouts....doesn't it become a tax on a tax on a tax...

            I think Andrew Scheer may have a chance ....but is he going to inherit one ****ing mess to clean up....

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            • chuckChuck
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 12807

              #16
              When you don't believe in science or evidence based decision making it is impossible to have an intelligent discussion about global warming or public policy.

              So feel free to rant on in obscurity about subjects you know nothing about.

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              • burnt
                Banned
                • Sep 2009
                • 3918

                #17
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                When you don't believe in science or evidence based decision making it is impossible to have an intelligent discussion about global warming or public policy.

                So feel free to rant on in obscurity about subjects you know nothing about.
                Liberals are people who claim to be open to the views and opinions of everyone, but then are shocked and angry that someone else may actually have a different view.

                Way to go, chucky!

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                • fjlip
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 9823

                  #18
                  Libs going to TAX Canadian Tire money, CC cash back, air miles, employee discounts...real open minded bunch, open to your $$$$

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                  • furrowtickler
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 21890

                    #19
                    The Liberal assault on the middle class will put 98% of us in poverty class .

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                    • Oliver88
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 4688

                      #20
                      Originally posted by fjlip View Post
                      Libs going to TAX Canadian Tire money, CC cash back, air miles, employee discounts...real open minded bunch, open to your $$$$
                      Wow, Ford employee discounts will likely be gone now.

                      No end in sight to the madness unless Ontario gets sick of Justin.

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