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  • chuckChuck
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 12940

    #11
    What is Wrong at
    the CRA?
    And How to Fix It.
    Interviews and Conversations with Auditors, Investigators and Managers at
    Canada’s Beleaguered Tax Agency
    Canadians for Tax Fairness
    December 2015

    http://www.taxfairness.ca/sites/taxfairness.ca/files/pdf/what_is_wrong_at_cra_0.pdf

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    • Oliver88
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 4688

      #12
      Originally posted by sofa.king View Post
      Holy crap I agree with chuck. The offshore tax shelters need to be stopped.
      Agree on offshore tax havens but this would affect Morneau and Trudeau's social circles in a negative way.
      Morneau has taken advantage of offshore tax havens already.

      Likely why public traded companies, banks and unions are not being reviewed while small business is as well.

      Gerald Butts knows which demographic votes Conservative and which doesn't.

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      • chuckChuck
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 12940

        #13
        Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
        Agree on offshore tax havens but this would affect Morneau and Trudeau's social circles in a negative way.
        Morneau has taken advantage of offshore tax havens already.

        Likely why public traded companies, banks and unions are not being reviewed while small business is as well.

        Gerald Butts knows which demographic votes Conservative and which doesn't.
        Conservatives are in the same social circles as Liberals. Conservatives were implicated with the KPMG case. Neither party is willing to take on the biggest tax avoiders.

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        • LEP
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2007
          • 2516

          #14
          Once I have tax paid money in my personal hands it is legal to move it to offshore accounts, never to be taxed in Canada again.

          The KPMG issue was trying to skip paying Canadian tax to start with.

          If the liberals go through with their tax "fairness" reform expect that a lot of money will move offshore never to create growth or be invested in Canada. ALOT.

          The liberals aren't above helping out a few friends regarding the first round of taxation when they let the Irvings skip out on a billion dollars of tax when taking the bulk of their investments offshore.

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          • chuckChuck
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 12940

            #15
            All kinds of large multinational Corporations use tax havens to shelter profit and pay lower taxes in Canada by setting up shop in low tax jurisdictions and making sure their profit is moved there. The effective tax rate in Canada can be much lower that what is actually listed.

            It will take a Canadian government with the guts and international cooperation to fix this problem.

            If you make profit in Canada it is your Corporate duty to pay the tax owing since the corporation benefited from Canada's stable business environment, workers, subsidies, research and development, rule of law, education, healthcare and infrastructure, much of which is paid for by taxpayers.

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            • Jay-mo
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 731

              #16
              Liberal mindset when they identify tax "unfairness": MORE TAXES!

              There, now everyone is equal and "fair" in getting screwed.

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              • sumdumguy
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 11995

                #17
                Originally posted by LEP View Post
                Once I have tax paid money in my personal hands it is legal to move it to offshore accounts, never to be taxed in Canada again.

                The KPMG issue was trying to skip paying Canadian tax to start with.

                If the liberals go through with their tax "fairness" reform expect that a lot of money will move offshore never to create growth or be invested in Canada. ALOT.

                The liberals aren't above helping out a few friends regarding the first round of taxation when they let the Irvings skip out on a billion dollars of tax when taking the bulk of their investments offshore.

                Are you sure of that statement that once you have paid tax on the money, you can move it off-shore never to be taxed again? I assume that you mean that only the income generated by that money off-shore is taxable in Canada if you are a Canadian resident?

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                • LEP
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 2516

                  #18
                  I wouldn't want to give you tax advice. 😀

                  I believe the US taxes worldwide income, however I dont think Canada does. That is the purpose of offshore havens. I think, if you repatriate any of the profit it is taxed.

                  It is all legal if you pay the proper tax before you move the money offshore.

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                  • farmaholic
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 17482

                    #19
                    Money "problems" of the rich and famous....usually the only money problem we have here in the Slum of the Ghetto is not enough of it.

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                    • macdon02
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 1858

                      #20
                      If politicians had to pay tax after life in politics, his wouldn't be am issue. They should have to live with the decisions they make. Only group in at the 1% level not paying tax are the pols. They are pointing the finger while 4 are pointing back at them.

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