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  • Oliver88
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 4688

    #11
    Originally posted by Klause View Post
    Just wait... we will be giving away supply management in exchange for "environmental concessions" in NAFTA negotiations....

    Billion $ question is what does "environmental concessions" refer to.

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    • grassfarmer
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2002
      • 9734

      #12
      Originally posted by Klause View Post
      J.. supply management works well for a sectors that work with limited shelf life items... the system works well leave it the f** alone.
      Good post Klause, spot on. I don't think that supply management is covered by NAFTA though. Still better worth keeping than throwing away though.

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      • bucket
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 17041

        #13
        Watching the cluster**** that followed with the open market with the elimination of the cwb ....I am going to disagree with eliminating supply management....maybe change the rules a bit but as much as I hate the price of milk and it's pricing mechanism. ...good on those that milk cows everyday.


        The open market in grain in Canada is a joke....no real market info from the industry other than they continue and are allowed to change the rules at their leisure.

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        • the big wheel
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2017
          • 3860

          #14
          Same here keep it in place maybe fix up somewhat.

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          • sumdumguy
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 12034

            #15
            We are either a free market economy or we aren't. US may make that decision for us. I am actually surprised that the quota system has survived this long.

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            • bucket
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 17041

              #16
              Bottom line is ...we are not in a free market. ....

              A free and open market allows you to deliver any day as a part of the open market price discovery .....doesn't happen here.

              The supply managed sector has a shelf life....all that happens by eliminating it is more product ends up getting thrown out.


              I think they could redesign the pricing mechanism in supply managed sectors....milk never goes down even though the parts that determine price do...fuel grain etc. ..but milk like bread stays up.

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              • farmaholic
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 17486

                #17
                I think milk is somewhat reasonably priced. $1.15 per liter($4.59 SuperStore Regina for 4 liters) Bottled water probably costs as much, gas and diesel. Pop....

                Cheese is a stupid price or just about anything made of milk, but fluid milk is reasonable as far as I'm concerned

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                • grassfarmer
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 9734

                  #18
                  Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                  We are either a free market economy or we aren't. US may make that decision for us. I am actually surprised that the quota system has survived this long.
                  Is the US a free market economy? In dairy they regularly bail out producers with tax payer money. At least two $20 million bail out programs in 2016.



                  Originally posted by bucket View Post

                  I think they could redesign the pricing mechanism in supply managed sectors....milk never goes down even though the parts that determine price do...fuel grain etc. ..but milk like bread stays up.
                  Careful there you are talking about two things - the retail (store) price of milk and what the producer gets. The store price may not come down but don't blame that on supply management or the dairy farmer. The price the farmer receives does go up and down depending on the production costs they use in the pricing formula.

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                  • burnt
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3918

                    #19
                    Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
                    I think milk is somewhat reasonably priced. $1.15 per liter($4.59 SuperStore Regina for 4 liters) Bottled water probably costs as much, gas and diesel. Pop....

                    Cheese is a stupid price or just about anything made of milk, but fluid milk is reasonable as far as I'm concerned
                    Milk is not just reasonable - it is CHEAP. By any standard. Even with the price of quota worked in, if it is.

                    Because we had a cow for a while...gotta be there twice a day, takes good feed or the cow falls apart, takes a lot of time to milk a cow, and keep the utensils clean...

                    If anyone complains about the price of milk, go get a cow.

                    There are truckloads of problems with supply management, but the price of milk is NOT one of them.

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                    • chuckChuck
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 13057

                      #20
                      It makes no sense to invest in dairy or poultry operations and then see prices crash because of oversupply and cheaper imports from countries where the cost of production is lower. Unless you want to see most of the small to medium sized operations disappear? Most businesses try to manage supply and not sell below the cost of production. At least with grain crops you can store surplus production or switch to other crops during low priced periods.

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