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Canola cupping leaves! Drought or it just hit the gas!

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  • furrowtickler
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2004
    • 21837

    #21
    Originally posted by wiseguy
    buy a seedhawk and dump the bourgaults with mrb !


    # seedhawk = perfect crop
    Come for a crop tour , I will show you some absolutely horrible crops seeded with a seed hawk . I will even buy the beer .
    It's not the machine , it's the guy behind the wheel .
    BTW we will drive right by many excellent established canola seeded with all types of Bourgault drills .
    Shoot your mouth off or come for a drive .....

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    • Klause
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 3644

      #22
      We never touch pea straw. Always get shitty emergence. :P IClick image for larger version

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      • helmsdale
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 2127

        #23
        Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
        Helmsdale...I was one of those "God forbid untouched pea stubble" guys. Seeded canola into it. It was dry and didn't work too bad but far from perfect. Some heavy residue in places, I guess that's what happens when you grow a 60 bu/ac pea crop the year before.... Like I'd ever know... never done it before that. I would bet the farm the germination results may have been dramatically worse if I did anything to it before seeding.

        An eye opener here was a guy who seeded flax into lentil stubble that "protilled" parts of the field last fall.... you could see the spots that were done as plain as day.... just like you cut it with a knife...areas done versus areas left. Not that everywhere else on the field was perfect, just that everywhere it was tilled was that much worse! Too loose, too deep, too dry, I don't know....they're blaming it on cutworms! Re-seeded it.
        Farma, I ran a coulter unit over my pea stubble that hardly looked like anything had been done but it sort of sized the vines and stubble into more manageable lengths. Most thought I needed to blacken the soil. I love the look of black soil, but it scares the shit out of me. Even in my short time, I've seen fields blow out so bad it's buggee, payloader, and dump truck territory to reclaim.

        I drug my collector 5000 air drill through it and for 85-90% the coulter unit did a good enough job to keep the residue flowing through the drill. The other 10-15% was a bit of a headache. Spent a lot of time spinning pirouettes, and dragging plugs out with the shanks skimming the ground.

        Efficiency measured in acres per day sure suffered, but in my neighborhood at least, intensive tillage is just to risky imo.

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        • SASKFARMER3
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2006
          • 14485

          #24
          To the seedhawk seed master guy WTF you must not get out much in most areas it doesn't matter if it's a half million drill or a old flexicoil they all come up the same. The local guys with seed hawk were on their knees all spring looking for growth like most.

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          • helmsdale
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2014
            • 2127

            #25
            Originally posted by wiseguy
            just saying what i am seeing 24/7 !

            canola not getting the n in the mid row band when shes dry !
            With the forecast. Don't worry about it... That mid-row is just efficient fertilizer placement for next years crop!

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            • farmaholic
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 17464

              #26
              Originally posted by wiseguy
              just saying what i am seeing 24/7 !

              canola not getting the n in the mid row band when shes dry !
              I would have to agree, but the two inches of rain two weeks ago made everything good. Either put more starter with the seed or possibly have the crop run short until it finds it. If it's that dry that the plants can't get to the midrow....that ain't good regardless.

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              • SASKFARMER3
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 14485

                #27
                You have to put starter and other fert with the seed safely up to 120 lbs then when it hits the gas wow does it pass the seed hawk. I owned one never ever ever again sorry to offend some but never ever again.

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                • biglentil
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 3258

                  #28
                  Originally posted by SASKFARMER3 View Post
                  You have to put starter and other fert with the seed safely up to 120 lbs then when it hits the gas wow does it pass the seed hawk. I owned one never ever ever again sorry to offend some but never ever again.
                  Explain to me why you cant do that with a Seed Hawk. I quad shoot with mine.

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                  • SASKFARMER3
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 14485

                    #29
                    That's how we did it but one dry year gas issues with close seed plus just didn't like the system

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                    • farmaholic
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 17464

                      #30
                      Originally posted by helmsdale View Post
                      Farma, I ran a coulter unit over my pea stubble that hardly looked like anything had been done but it sort of sized the vines and stubble into more manageable lengths. Most thought I needed to blacken the soil. I love the look of black soil, but it scares the shit out of me. Even in my short time, I've seen fields blow out so bad it's buggee, payloader, and dump truck territory to reclaim.

                      I drug my collector 5000 air drill through it and for 85-90% the coulter unit did a good enough job to keep the residue flowing through the drill. The other 10-15% was a bit of a headache. Spent a lot of time spinning pirouettes, and dragging plugs out with the shanks skimming the ground.

                      Efficiency measured in acres per day sure suffered, but in my neighborhood at least, intensive tillage is just to risky imo.
                      Like!!! And don't be so critical of your equipment. Nothing is perfect, even the new shit!

                      The MRB'S help somewhat with cutting long pea and cereal stubble.

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