Is it really worth growing wht?

[Casered]

How many people on here seed red wheat at 2.5 bushels? If your going by plants per square foot. That rate seems a little heavy to me? Maybe I need to up it. If I seed 2 bushels per acre of Brandon I'm hoping for close to 30 plants per sq foot. Also what seeding depth are most people shooting for?

[farming101]

With 10% mortality that would be really thick on 12 inch spacing

39 plants/sq.ft X 36 g/1000 ÷ .9 ÷ 10.413 = 149.81 lb/acre

[Klause]

6.47 /bu * 67 bu/ac (farm average this yr) = 433.39/ac. Yes it pays to grow wheat.
2.80 /bu * 110 bu/ac = 308 for oats... hmm... yeah no Wheat. plus lower storage/drying/handling/transportation costs.


We seed at 2.5 to 2.7 bu/ac going for 36-38 plants a square foot. 12" spacing, 5" spread. NH3 down the center....


For fertility we use the Western Ag Labs recommendations... Loosely. This wheat was 65-22-8-8








Not bad for a 20 year old drill that cost us $3,000 with NH3.

[malleefarmer]

its getting harder and harder to find a reason for wheat to head north other than drought or war......

Do your darndest to go best crops you can and drive prices lower eh wonderful industry at times

[Klause]

Sample from that field.... this is what came out of the combine. no hand picking, no effing around. Not sprayed pre harvest either.

[Grahamp]

Klaus
Do you feel like the 12" spacing is at all detrimental to wheat? I was looking at a drill that I liked earlier this year but passed because it was a 12" spacing. I thought it was fine for canola but not so good for Wheat. But seeing your crop is giving me second thoughts.

[farming101]

Good job Klause

Hey Mallee the CAD just took a nosedive; farmgate wheat prices turning up here the last day or two
Basis still poor tho

Bad time for the AUD to appreciate. Up over 4% vs CAD since Jan

[Klause]

Klaus
Do you feel like the 12" spacing is at all detrimental to wheat? I was looking at a drill that I liked earlier this year but passed because it was a 12" spacing. I thought it was fine for canola but not so good for Wheat. But seeing your crop is giving me second thoughts.

I think 12" shank spacing is perfectly fine... but 3/4" knives aren't meant for cereals IMHO That's why we use a good old fashioned 6" sweep, backswept fert knife and a 6" spreader... You can notice the "width" of the head-row... it's not one line, but rather a "bunch" of heads.

Seems to be the key in peas also, allowing more pods/plant. This year we skipped every 4th or 5th row (plugged them in the manifold) on 1 field in peas to see what would happen, the rows facing the "skip" had 3 to 5 more pods, which made up for the "lost" plants.... I think you could even go wider if you wanted to in pulses.

[hobbyfrmr]

Western Canada is a vast area. Various soils and weather, everyone has their own recipe for what works in their area.

It would be nice to hear a response to the thread question from our organic AVers. Does wheat pay for them?

(no sarcasm allowed hobby)

I don't honestly know, I have not grown wheat for at least a decade.
I don't even know about the price of organic wheat.
I am a bad wheat farmer. About 25 years ago I had wheat in rotation but it was frustrating making a budget on borrowed money with CWB initial prices and future estimates. The whole marketing/elevator agent /coffee visual grading/bullshit poker game with grade and dockage was always weird to me.
I was realizing better margins with oats and canola. One time at coffee the regular farmers asked me what I planted and I answered canola and oats. The response was "no wheat? You have to grow wheat!" Right about then I stopped frequenting the coffee shop and relied more on independent thinking.
I made this far, so I am satisfied.

[MBgrower]

Best N management is some in the seed row some side banded, and then additional floating before elongation uan is the best