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    #21
    As I said before the discussion is pointless because unless you are a climate scientist our "opinions" about the science are just hot air.

    What is worth discussing is the ability of some to completely disregard the overwhelming scientific evidence that is before them.

    It is like we are returning to the dark ages where evidence based decision making is being replaced by fake news, rumour and superstition.

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      #22
      GTH chuckchuck.

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        #23
        http://mediamatters.org/video/2017/02/23/seth-meyers-hosts-climate-scientist-rebut-ignorance-donald-trump-and-ted-cruz/215432

        a 7 minute video of Seth Myers interviewing an actual climate scientist

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          #24
          Ted Cruz and a lot of people who should know better will lie and bull shit to the average voter just to score political points if it it suits their political agenda.

          On Agriville there are numerous posts challenging the basic understanding of climate change science that get taken as fact by laypeople who know almost nothing about the science.

          After decades of scientific advances in numerous areas all of sudden climate change science is called a hoax? Why believe in any science at all if you think climate change is a hoax.

          We know from history that putting doubt in the mind of people about the dangers of smoking was a strategy used by big tobacco.
          I guess the science that showed tobacco caused cancer was probably a hoax too.

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            #25
            It appears all good Viterra customers got this email from Viterra a couple of days ago. I can post the gawd damn form if anybody is real keen to participate. They don't even say please and its almost as if they expect 100% compliance; afterall I'm sure its a real important part of biofuels for those real fussy customers I think we should tell to go hug their own forbes.
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            Sustainable Crops what is it & Why is Viterra involved?

            As of January 1st , 2012 the European Union (EU) is operating under the Renewable Energy Directive ( RED ) which requires that all bio-fuels produced or imported into the EU is made from crops that are sustainably produced
            Sustainable produced crops are produced in an environmentally sound manner, using ethical farming and management practices and that no further land was cleared after 2008
            Viterra recognizes the importance to this industry and that our crops have access to the European market which is the largest user of ****seed for bio-diesel
            As a producer all that is required is for you to fill out the form which is sent to you as an attachment and email it back to me

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              #26
              Chuck2, Ted Cruz is educated at both Princeton and Harvard. A very intelligent man. Yet you pick on Ted Cruz but you don't defend Al Gore. Both politicians but you imply Ted is not qualified to have an opinion because he disagrees with your narrative. Unfortunately the opinions on both sides are becoming more entrenched.

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                #27
                Hemlock there are very few politicians who are openly climate change science deniers in Canada. The majority of conservative politicians in Canada wont deny the science, but may still be opposed to doing something about it because of ties to the oil industry their supporters or concern about the impact on jobs. A lot of what is said is to appeal to the conservative base who will revolt Otherwise. Even Brad Wall doesn't like to be called a climate change denier and has spent 1.2 billion on CCS at boundary. Christy Clark and Brian Palister also believe in the science of climate change. Clark has a carbon tax to boot. She must be a commie correct, as this is just a socialist plot! No she is a middle of the road conservative who favours resource development. Cruz is saying what the average republican wants to hear. Gore is not a scientist either but I have more confidence in what he says since it is backed up by the clear majority of scientists.

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                  #28
                  chuck chuck B.S.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                    chuck chuck B.S.
                    Like! like! like!

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                      #30
                      Ever had an engineer tell you "it has to fit".

                      Chkchk has the right to his religion in public as long as he doesnt proclaim aloud the rest of us are going to hell.

                      Those of us with phds in bullshit have an idea of whose goin.

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