Chuck.... when someone gives you a lead to raw data (albiet from Ontario sites which in some ways have some more favorable latitude positions)why would you not at least go to that unbiased source to see for yourself what real life situations deliver for some actual situation. And even apply what you have learned without repeating mistakes and overlooking that which turns out important.
I do caution you that every one of those electrical value produced is based on the 80 cent/Kwh that most if not all contract were signed for.
Now that good for those who took advantage of the program...in fact its an ongoing 20 year gift.
But does not everyone believe that every such windfall is paid for by debt or others sacrifice.
I do encourage everyone to visit powerhousesolar.ca to confirm for themselves that solar panels might as well be shut down in Ontario in December and January of each year. The output; year after year and site after site is dismal...even at 80 cents a Kwh and remember that every one of those sites has dual axis tracking (that I have run across so far). That is a further 50 % output gain expected over fixed tilted array that Sask Power and Manitoba Hydro have promoted. And I stand to be corrected , but it seems that dual axis tracking in real time requires communication with software and remote control such as the Ontario Hydro blessed program provides
I firmly believe that on evidence produced so far "promises" expectation and unjustified estimates biased in selling and promoting something which doesn't currently deliver what people think it essentially says on the surface.
The argument isn't about whether the subsidy is 20% or 55% or 60% of installed capacity. It isn't about being paid an outrageous 80 cents a Kwh for 20 years.
More about deceiving some people (who are susceptible to swallowing an agenda that fits in with their chosen life goals and running with it to an audience who is even more ripe for swallowing the line even easier). With lucrative upfront incentives most can see why it is so popular. But lets not all be shallow thinkers
And lets learn what is on that extremely good site which is a little slow; but its fully functional and is currently up and running.
If Sask Power is listening I'd suggest spending $107,000 (dual tracker; deluxe, remote controlled; Cadillac; state of art; awesome technology) for a demo system at Estevan before spending an extra $29,897,000 on finding out less than what that minute investment could provide. I'd be surprised if that company wouldn't do it for nothing if they had long term faith in their product producing power at approx. 12 cents a Kwh and still make decent returns.
I do caution you that every one of those electrical value produced is based on the 80 cent/Kwh that most if not all contract were signed for.
Now that good for those who took advantage of the program...in fact its an ongoing 20 year gift.
But does not everyone believe that every such windfall is paid for by debt or others sacrifice.
I do encourage everyone to visit powerhousesolar.ca to confirm for themselves that solar panels might as well be shut down in Ontario in December and January of each year. The output; year after year and site after site is dismal...even at 80 cents a Kwh and remember that every one of those sites has dual axis tracking (that I have run across so far). That is a further 50 % output gain expected over fixed tilted array that Sask Power and Manitoba Hydro have promoted. And I stand to be corrected , but it seems that dual axis tracking in real time requires communication with software and remote control such as the Ontario Hydro blessed program provides
I firmly believe that on evidence produced so far "promises" expectation and unjustified estimates biased in selling and promoting something which doesn't currently deliver what people think it essentially says on the surface.
The argument isn't about whether the subsidy is 20% or 55% or 60% of installed capacity. It isn't about being paid an outrageous 80 cents a Kwh for 20 years.
More about deceiving some people (who are susceptible to swallowing an agenda that fits in with their chosen life goals and running with it to an audience who is even more ripe for swallowing the line even easier). With lucrative upfront incentives most can see why it is so popular. But lets not all be shallow thinkers
And lets learn what is on that extremely good site which is a little slow; but its fully functional and is currently up and running.
If Sask Power is listening I'd suggest spending $107,000 (dual tracker; deluxe, remote controlled; Cadillac; state of art; awesome technology) for a demo system at Estevan before spending an extra $29,897,000 on finding out less than what that minute investment could provide. I'd be surprised if that company wouldn't do it for nothing if they had long term faith in their product producing power at approx. 12 cents a Kwh and still make decent returns.
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