Get ready to pay up b*tches !

[blackpowder]

I can agree with you on that grass.

[SASKFARMER3]

Grass tell me something since you love the Selfie King.

How will this Carbon Tax help your Farm.

Explain please how this new tax is going to make you prosper.

Please explain we all want to know.

[farmaholic]

What about Sask's Clean Coal carbon capture project that works or doesn't depending on who you talk to? Someone's pet project or any value what so ever? If it proves to work....maybe we can sell the technology to those nations who refuse to do anything about carbon on the tax front.

What measures did Canada take that other nations didn't in the past.... Was it Kyoto that some didn't even sign up for and then we "took the lead" and did things other nations didn't even consider.

Like someone said.... "Canada" the laughing stock of the Industrialized World. What a good little do-gooder boyscout we are! We will be their fool again.

[blackpowder]

The greatest marketing job of the 21st century. Tax your way out of using carbon before you have alternatives. Sell the carbon concept successfully first. Then make sure the people who use it to live are convinced its bad, their own being the worst.
Tax the worlds wealthy. But dont pay the worlds poor. Just burn it on rainmakers. All the while allowing larger more populous nations to do their own thing. Increasing trade defecit, allowing them to buy more of our sovereignty with our own damn money.
Then tell the people a tax can be cost free. Brilliant. What next while their on a roll? Obviously anything, and their just getting started.

[cottonpicken]

Sorry Black got my guys mixed up,reading to fast.

Grass,what are going to say to the 500 dollar cow tax because of the methane they release,that will be funny

[mustardman]

This is Only $10 per tonne , Sweden is at $219/ tonne, it also has a very Strong economy. They have had carbon pricing since 1990 !!

We should have had carbon pricing Years ago and maybe we'd be leaders in green energy instead of sucking the hind TiT

[mustardman]

Even Shell and Suncor came out in approval of carbon pricing

[blackpowder]

Guess what we rnot Scandinavia!
Whats the plan when beef is lab dish grown because its the worlds most expensive protein now?
We all know the tons of methane produced not to mention fossil fuel burning to produce the grain of which 2/3 world production goes to feed livestock for protein.
Oh yeah, saw a doc on tvo. Must be true. Published germany i think. Cows are next!!

[chuckChuck]

Its the end of the world! The economy is doomed! The sky is falling! Funny the markets and the CAD dollar seem relatively the same today after the scary big announcement about carbon taxes. The only thing decidedly up is the proliferation of insane conspiracy theories.

[boarderbloke]

mustard, "Even Shell and Suncor came out in approval of carbon pricing"

They don't give a shit! Shell and Suncor and other oil companies will pass every cent of the added costs(carbon TAX), including the extra time that steno's will need to enter the data into computers, on to consumers at the bowsers, the farm fuel delivery truck, your natural gas hook-up etc. Every place they sell their products they will pass the costs on, the result being the prices for energy will certainly rise and both the oil companies and the government will be pleased. You, if your a farmer won't, because you have no mechanism to pass your carbon taxes on to the people that process the grains or livestock you produce, to those that consume your products. Processors might pass THEIR carbon costs on to the retail price for those that actually eat the food, but there will be a break in the chain between you and who ever you sell it to. If you are a farm mustardman, are you ready to absorb all the carbon costs you'll be paying added to fert, chems, fuel and grease, canola seed, R.M. expenses added to your property taxes, same for schools, it goes on and on including livestock production. Yet you have no mechanism to pass any of these cost on to those which will be purchasing you goods. And to add insult to injury, when you and your wife go to the store to buy products you'll be paying the carbon TAX hidden into the costs of most everything you bring home.

[boarderbloke]

chucky, the CAD is down today and will likely continue to drop till 2018.

Do you even farm any more chucky?

[furrowtickler]

The point is this , it's not a global warming issue to reduce carbon - it's a scam to raise tax's and move wealth where they wish

[oneoff]

There can be substantial rewards for those with the right attitudes. Those rewards can be multiplied if you pander to your buyers and keep confirming each and every one of their firmly held beliefs.

These viscious circles eventually have no identifiable beginning nor end.

[boarderbloke]

Can anyone post this cartoon as a graphic?


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[chuckChuck]

Carbon tax should apply to companies and consumers, says Suncor Energy Inc’s CEO
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Geoffrey Morgan | May 22, 2015 5:51 PM ET
CALGARY – The president and CEO of Suncor Energy Inc., Canada’s largest oil company, is willing to pay a carbon tax, but thinks it should apply to both companies and consumers.

“We think climate change is happening,” Steve Williams said at an Ecofiscal Commission event Friday in Calgary. “We think a broad-based carbon price is the right answer.”

A carbon tax that targets only companies would not reduce emissions effectively in Canada, he said.

“If you look at carbon production in a modern economy, about 80 per cent of it is at the point of consumption or the point of use. So targeting fees just on industry does not get to it.”

His remarks come as Alberta’s current carbon tax program, the Specified Gas Emitters Regulation, is set to expire in 38 days and as other provinces, notably Quebec and Ontario, debate their own prices for carbon.

Williams and Ecofiscal Commission chair Chris Ragan both urged Alberta Premier-designate Rachel Notely and her soon-to-be sworn-in New Democratic Party cabinet to take their time and proceed cautiously when implementing new carbon restrictions in the province. “We can do an awful lot of damage if we get this wrong,” Williams said.

In the interim, a number of political observers are encouraging the NDP, which swept the Progressive Conservatives from power in an election victory May 5, to extend the existing regulation. “Given that they can do it, they should do it,” retired long-time Tory cabinet minister Jim Dinning said at the event.

Dinning, who is an Ecofiscal Commission board member with Williams, added that the regulation should eventually be replaced with a broad-based carbon tax on both companies and consumers.

In addition to a stricter tax for carbon, the NDP plans to review the royalty rates oil and gas producers pay in Alberta and to hike corporate taxes to 12 per cent from 10 per cent.

A handful of oil and gas executives have expressed concern about a potential royalty review, including Cenovus Energy Inc. president and CEO Brian Ferguson, who told Bloomberg during the election campaign, “I don’t think there’s any room for any increase in royalties.”

Cenovus is also one of the energy-sector companies in favour of an Albertan carbon tax. “We support a price on carbon and we’ve been saying that as a firm since we launched over five years ago,” Judy Fairburn, executive advisor at Cenovus, told the Ecofiscal event.

Despite supporting a carbon tax, energy executives are still wary of the combined effect with increased royalty rates and corporate taxes.

“Right now in Alberta, there are questions about the price of carbon, there are questions about the royalty, there are questions about the corporation taxes and it’s very difficult for investors to put money in here while those uncertainties are there,” Williams said.

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