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Don't count on Agristability

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  • farmaholic
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 17488

    #41
    Thank you guys.

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    • farmaholic
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 17488

      #42
      Thank you guys.

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      • AllisWD45
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 508

        #43
        Regarding Assiniboia CPP land deal. I think this deal
        was done because the time was right. I also believe
        that they wanted to cash out and put the money into
        their canola streaming company. That looks like the
        future in input financing. Guys like Hudye did it for
        years in their business as did some farm equipment
        dealers on a smaller scale.
        Full disclosure have no positions in either Assiniboine
        or Input Capital Corp just sitting here digesting turkey
        and rum and coke!

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        • bucket
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 17048

          #44
          Cash out sounds great to eligible farmers but to sell to the government, well, something is rotten.

          Investors were getting nervous and the wealthy have better connections to the tit.

          If it was Potash it would be under review but farmland not a chance.

          Closer to communism everyday.

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          • bucket
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 17048

            #45
            Ok

            Let's tie this together.

            If the people at Assinibioa realized that agristability is not going to pay out for their renters, there is a pretty good chance they better dump the land they control.

            They knew they couldn't go to their renters to buy because it would have quickly driven the price down leaving their investors with nothing but a capital loss. Their renters wouldn't pay the previous price that Assinibioa was aquiring the land at, a few years back, so they knew renters were not going to pay CPP prices. Especially considering current crop prices and no agristability payouts.

            Their investors were getting nervous and started talking to their conservative friends. They quickly put a scheme together through the CPP. Much like they did with the duffy scandal.

            And there you have it, all tied up in a neat little package.

            A free conspiracy theory for today.

            Just follow the people involved.

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            • farmaholic
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 17488

              #46
              Bucket. I will reiterate. CPP is coming to the party
              late. Corruption or incompetence? Not their
              money so who cares (better be the tax payer)!!!!
              Dots, probably can and will be connected if it is a
              croney bail-out. Your examples of why the
              investors are running with their tails between their
              legs is legitimate.

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              • Nudge
                Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 68

                #47
                Doug Emsley Co-founder of Assiniboia Capital Corp
                is on the board of directors of Bank of Canada.....

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                • dave4441
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2003
                  • 1082

                  #48
                  HOw is this land purchase any different then CPP buying shares in a public company? Once again we are talking right wing and free enterprise and then acting left wing and protectionist when faced with competition from free markets in our own businesses!

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                  • bucket
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 17048

                    #49
                    Its not "competition from free markets in our own businesses! "

                    When they are using your money Dave, you are competing to bid yourself up.

                    The CPP is the publics money and buying land at a high is great, but when you factor in crop prices and the fact land prices are more than likely going down in unison with crop prices it ends up being a bad investment.

                    And to be clear, this was a bail out to investors and a backroom deal.

                    Had it gone through a real estate listing or auction, no problem.

                    But look at reality.

                    Disclosure: I have no interest in any of the land involved, nor do I. BUT I had a stake in the CPP and it concerns me.

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                    • dave4441
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2003
                      • 1082

                      #50
                      So you know that land is going down? Gimme a
                      break.

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