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Truly ugly grain prices

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  • agstar77
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2001
    • 6273

    #21
    Now that's the kind of thinking that might mean we have found a bottom.

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    • jensend
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2002
      • 1533

      #22
      you could live with these grain prices if inputs fell as well. there are two parts to the income statement. if you're assuming grain prices will rise again i guess you have to assume fertilizer prices will rebound from their recent declines. i wonder how many people are thinking if they can buy forty five cent nitrogen and catch a rise in grain prices they will be doing the right thing. maybe the opposite strategy is correct. maybe the inflation in commodities that everyone is anticipating happened over the last year and we're already into the deflationary part of the cycle.

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      • bucket
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 17042

        #23
        Not according to Jim Rogers.

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        • jensend
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2002
          • 1533

          #24
          to put it another way: a year ago the right strategy was hold inventory and buy inputs into inventory. are we in the same scenario this year? two things say no. the price of fertilizer is falling hard at the manufacturer level, at least, and the price of grain is falling as well so isn't it appropriate to ask if the opposite strategy would work? i don't know but if conditions have changed a producer will need to do things differently. just food for thought.

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          • jensend
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2002
            • 1533

            #25
            bucket, jim rogers might be right, he might be wrong. even he doesn't know for sure and he's certainly not saying when the inflation holocaust will occur. he's just willing to make a bet. i don't know if he's right or wrong but i do know it's a different scenario than a year ago. dennis gartman and robert prechter disagree with rogers.

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            • Zaphod
              Senior Member
              • May 2005
              • 460

              #26
              Jim Rogers was wrong for five years, then right for six months. Now he's wrong again. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. People who are bullish are always right at some point simply because the market cycles higher and then lower. It always has and always will. But the timing is what gets really tricky unless you have really deep pockets. It's just that bulls are way more popular than bears (who are right just as often as bulls).

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