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    #11
    Dear IW,

    The CWB is legislatively responsible for issuing export and interprovincial licenses to all applicants, right across Canada.

    Licensing is their national duty, in conjunction with their more familiarily-known regional marketing duty in the DA.

    Here's what the CWB is actually doing:

    The CWB automatically issues no-buyback export/interprov licenses to all applicants outside the Designated Area(DA).

    HOWEVER, the CWB has decided to DENY export/interprov licenses to all farmers inside the DA.

    We're hogtied, IW.

    Western farmers want/need national licensing approvals to be applied the same in the West as the CWB already does in Eastern Canada.

    Westerners apply... and bingo, we should automatically be granted a license.

    The change doesn't require legislation or ammendments to the Act. Or voodoo. Just a policy change.

    Couldja fix this?

    Regards,
    Parsley

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      #12
      Parsley, you only speak for yourself not all western farmers.

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        #13
        That's correct, agstar.

        The posts on Agriville threads are indeed not communal.

        However, this forum also provides an opportunity for dissenting farmers, to state openely, that they do not want their fellow farmers in the West, to enjoy what Eastern farmers have enjoyed for decades.

        Help yourself.

        Recall I did comment, "be who you choose to be, just like in real life."

        Parsley

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          #14
          Agstar, Seems to me that Pars is speaking for 62% of Western Canadian farmers. Check the barley plebisite.

          Wheat growers in Quebec required a 75% majority of their growers in order to create their compulsory marketing board. When have farmers in Western Canada ever voted on the compulsory CWB? You know darn well, Agstar, the CWB would never garner 75% support among Western Canadian growers.

          Back in the '70's Western Canadian farmers voted to have canola(****seed at the time) included in the CWB. At that time a 2/3rds majority was required. The CWB did not have support of 50%. Agstar, would 67% of growers support compulsory CWB marketing in wheat or barley? I think not.

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            #15
            Good Morning IW,

            Please examine the organic/conventional buyback issue.

            It's playing like this:

            The CWB denies licenses to only Westerners, thereby forcing all Westerners to sell their grain to the CWB or alternately, eat it.

            So the grain becomes the legal property of the CWB.

            Some farmers chose to buy their own grain back from the CWB owners.

            This is called a buyback or, PDF.

            Recently, the CWB "consentsitzed" in a backroom (meaning hammered in the media, lol), to allow organic farmers to buy their grain back from the CWB at affordable prices. A set fee per tonne.

            But not for conventional farmers.

            These are policy decisions at their worst.

            1.It causes divisions in the farm community.

            2.It is not consistent with whatthe Canadian Constitution expects.

            3.It is egregious to conventional farmers because the fee is sometimes so high it halts commerce.

            4.Ontario and Quebec get no-buyback licenses, so no legislative problems.

            5.Mistrust of the CWB is rampant.

            CONCLUSION: Western organic AND conventional farmers need no-buyback liceses. NOT low-cost buybacks, NOT zero buyback licenses.......

            WE WANT NO-BUYBACK LICENSES.

            Now, that's not difficult!

            Best regards,
            Parsley

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              #16
              Now we can all feather our own nests. Cause Mr. White is new to the job, he'll likely agree with everything that Angrivillers suggest, just to be our friend. White probably knows little or nothing about the CWB, given that he was appointed, he'll likely follow his appointee agenda, he is an executive (loves the big pay promised) and a politico all at once. Let me guess, the first question will be, now let me think, BUYBACKS no doubt. Then, how about that nickle that was owed to my grandpa from the 1937 crop year. Then Demurage yada, yada, Betcha he can tell you, Harper's birthday, or the Ritz cracker guys bday for sure. Methinks this is a bad appointment for sure!!!

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                #17
                Parsley are you sure the CWB physically owns the grain or do they just facilitate its Sale?

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                  #18
                  Mr. White, why would it not be possible to physically deliver grain directly to the CWB through a joint venture terminal between the CWB and either a farmer owned terminal or a willing commercial entity, given the railways only want three or four terminals in all of western Canada.

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                    #19
                    agstar,

                    There is a legal difference between ownership and possession.

                    The CWB does or does not have to take physical possession of the grain to own it.(You may have a leased bin on your farm that is owned by Wheatland hopperbins, for example).

                    But the CWB LEGALLY owns the offerred grain because there is a legal transfer of ownership from the farmer to the CWB.(The CWB/or CWB-agent signs the cheque)

                    Obviously, the farmer would not have to buy any grain back if he still owned it.

                    Also, the CWB, on occassion, refused to sell back, the grain it now owns, to the producing-farmer. The CWB couldn't refuse to facilitate that buyback unless the CWB owned the grain and decided to keep it.

                    Parsley

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                      #20
                      Mr. White
                      I would like to know how the CWB plays into price discovery on the world market when it`s sells grain. When their sales are not hedged in to any commodity market, their sale just fills a void that could have made a big difference in prices one way or another if it had been record on some market.
                      Most open market trades are hedged one way or another and thus moves the market. Thank You in advance from your enslaved supplier.

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