Top Wind to Spray Fungicides

[furrowtickler]

What ya need to know ?
The most effective mix for me and others on wheat is 2530 at 4-5 LT , a LT of ortho phos and 75% palliser.

[furrowtickler]

I found that it's more consistent than straight XRN or 2075 at heading .
i went from less than a bus per ltr applied and small increase in protein to 1.5 bus per ltr applied and over 1% gain protein in all side by side tests.
In cases of high fertility results with the 70% slow release products were inconsistent from small bumps to flat to a few negative .
I am still working on the canola side of it , but it seems to be a mix 2075 and ortho is working much better and more consistent as well.
I am trying to keep the cost at $15/AC or less, the environment here is too inconsistent to risk any more than that.
At 3 ltr Kugler and 1 ltr ortho the cost is around $10.
Some areas have used far higher rates with very good results but here the limiting factor is usually rain or lack of it at key times.

[Guest]

Thanks furrow, I only have 2075 for product. I would like to have put 2530 or 178C on but I only got the 2075 in bulk and wanted to try it first. if it goes good I may add another tank to diversify my products. I want to apply it with that palliser in some wheat that is just starting to head. Do you think it is still ok for the slow release to give a benefit? The weather this weekend messed up my plan but will try to apply it asap. We are using 3.78 LT/acre with the 100 acre/jug rate of palliser (3/4 rate). We are going to try some on canola at about 5 LT/acre now just as it elongates or starts to flower (its most vegetative state). Also looking at putting 3.78 LT/acre mixed with fungicide on oats. How long have you been using kugler? Do you find that an application at flag/start of heading gives you a bushel weight increase and helps the plant with some nutrients through the filling stage?

[Guest]

That last sentence should also ask if the application of their product keeps the plant healthy for filling? I know environment plays a hige role in the outcome. Starting to try and get more plant health benefits. Usually by the time you see disease it MAY be too late, so if you can keep a healthy plant you might be able to avoid some disease. Do you have a business in the NE furrow? You seem like somebody willing to try different products and for that I appreciate your input.

[furrowtickler]

Yes on the bushel weight in peas wheat and canola. Easily 10% .
I just in the Battlefords area
You can look up the Kugler Web site and get the Number for Top Krop fertilizers in Birch Hills - they will be able to get whatever you need or get you in contact with someone in your area .

[Guest]

I have been in contact woth the guys from Top Krop and that is where I got my product from. They seem like good guys to deal with. I hope it works out as I see a fit for their products on our farm. We are not real high input users and before all the "put it down in the spring" guys jump on me, I can show you areas of fields that all the fert in the world wont help. Was thinking of trying some on my peas with priaxor. Going in later this week, saw a couple flowers last week but will look again today. What product are you using for liquid ortho phos? If I understand correctly, liquid is more plant available than dry when applied in furrow? Is that right? Not set up for liquid at seeding but would like to try their kugler starter products.

[furrowtickler]

I use both 6-24-6 and Alpine.
They both have a fit for us.
The jury has been debating which is more plant available for years .
We have used Alpine for 13 years now and Kugler the past three years .
The cost can be an issue at times with both products .

[Guest]

Yeah it is something to watch as far as cost but like the fit. Have you sprayed peas at the 7 days after full flower with fung/kugler?