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  • farmaholic
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 17483

    #11
    I'm not arguing any points made. Just playing devil's advocate. Too bad the RRs only want to stop and pick up 112 car unit trains and pull them long distances to their destination and leave the short haul stuff to a trucking industry that uses roads that were never designed for the abuse they are taking. And this is all done in the name of progress or should I say profits at the publics expense. Also, unfortunately the trucking industry is way more agile than what the railways have become, old fat and lazy.

    It should have never been allowed to come to this. Most facilities were built beside a railroad with the "expectations of service".

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    • bucket
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 17033

      #12
      So if it's about efficiency at the railways - why do they stop all the time with 10000 tonne trains to let another pass.

      Interesting where they stop there use to be an elevator that they couldn't justify stopping at 20 years ago.

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      • farmaholic
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 17483

        #13
        .......one way streets.

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        • TOM4CWB
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2000
          • 16511

          #14
          I think you guys have imagination problems. We have shipped lentils on CN from Edmonton to Morris MB... and CN as more than happy to seriously undercut back haul truck rates. They made the inconvenience well rewarded. Loaded 3 cars at Edm East freight yard. Soy meal and corn dump sights... are good loading RR points for domestic movement. The 500 mile minimum usually holds true.

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          • bucket
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 17033

            #15
            500 minimum is why most fertilizer is trucked and wrecking roads.

            There is no reason fertilizer could not be railed into most points that have an elevator from belle plaine to wherever 60 to 120 miles away.

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            • farmaholic
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 17483

              #16
              ...ask for a spot in Timbucktoo Saskatchewan. How kind of you to use their designated facilities, in their back yard. Maybe Bucket can get a spot on an old siding that doesn't even have an elevator anymore on a secondary line that is nearly abandoned?

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              • TOM4CWB
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2000
                • 16511

                #17
                Just saying...

                There are dedicated trains... to some points... that if you want the extra work... can save a handsome sum.

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                • bucket
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 17033

                  #18
                  If 20 trucks are moving from humbolt to altona and everywhere in between it just seems that the railway should be used.

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                  • farmaholic
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 17483

                    #19
                    .....the equivalent to ten railcars a day.

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                    • bucket
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 17033

                      #20
                      Pretty good business to be handing over to the public highway system.

                      Little wonder trudeau wants to raise corporate taxes. The railways have no business creating the trucking industry without their share of taxes to maintain the highways.

                      Lower shareholder returns. Invest in railway infrastructure and haul more product. I would vet the results would be better for shareholders.

                      Buffet is counting on it. Big time.

                      He said railways are the future when he bought BNSF.

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