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  • wilagro
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2000
    • 2761

    #11
    Don't know what happened there with that gap Parsley...just insert these words and that will do..."CERTIFIED" AS BEING GULLIBLE.

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    • wd9
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2000
      • 3196

      #12
      This story is at least 7 years old btw.

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      • parsley
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2000
        • 10986

        #13
        It was regurgitated in twitter this morning. And
        reminded me of the insidious effect of stacking
        over the years. And how due diligence is still not
        considered important. I did a casual search for
        the implimentation of remedial practices. And
        protocol that prevents further forbidden ' lab in
        the field' escapees. Those oopsies are not
        considered important; indeed they are instead
        hidden, protected, and defended,

        I can accept risk. Do it every day.

        Biotech needs present eaters with the scope of
        the risk as the first step. Pars.

        I will assume the "I Don't give a rat's ass"
        attitude prevails, oopsies are ignored entirely ,
        and rice is stacked.

        Will, anyone growing foo for the hyper-allergic
        understands the importance if due diligence. And
        hope to hell you never have to depend on
        integrity.

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        • ado089
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2004
          • 1754

          #14
          Parsley, when these big bio companies
          produce their hybrid devil seed they
          must keep a buffer from like species.
          For canola that is a mile. I can't even
          begin to iterate how much work that
          takes when every company has 100,000
          accres plus of anual seed production. If
          you want to supply a premium, niche
          market perhaps you should practice the
          same due diligence. Allergies are not
          new, it's just in the recent past those
          with severe allergies have survived past
          childhood.

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          • parsley
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2000
            • 10986

            #15
            I find seed growers diligent. Just as I find organic
            audit trails conscientious.

            But there are companies and people who break
            trust. They cannot be sheltered and protected.
            Growing in secret must be exposed. Sheltering
            malpractice must be called out. You know what
            happens when seed growers close ranks? It's
            trust-suicide.

            Don't try and tell me that organics are just as
            bad' . Or that stacking or modification is not any
            different than natural selection. Or change names
            to avoid responsibility. Tighten up your industry
            to strengthen it.

            Grow up and take responsibility and stop
            defending those who will not. It will pay off in the
            long run. For everyone. Pars.

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            • Hopperbin
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 6562

              #16
              Not sure how true but heard that if the auditors in the organics industry did their due diligence there would be no organic growers at all. And there would also be no organic auditors. Like they are going to put them selves out of business.

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              • wd9
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2000
                • 3196

                #17
                Also Parsely, this isn't stacking.

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                • parsley
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2000
                  • 10986

                  #18
                  Exercise your right to not purchase organic food,
                  hopper, it's clearly labelled. The educated and
                  wealthy's growing support clealy show they
                  disagree with you.

                  No, stacking is not the issue, wd, This time. But
                  it will be, sometime.. Pars

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                  • Hopperbin
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 6562

                    #19
                    Sorry parsly as a grower I don't purchase organic at all and i stand by myself in my purchases. I don't believe in it. Yet pars if I have to dust my potatoes in the garden and have to choose between picking the bugs off I will pick them. I don't like to dust in the garden where I may be putting on 20 times the chemical. At least I know as how I farm I put on the exact amount. no one is going to tell me I spray the shit out of it like some ass hole on here thinks we spray the shit out of it, not sure what he is thinking

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                    • ColevilleH2S
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 1641

                      #20
                      As usual, people even as keen as Pars
                      completely misunderstand real risk. To
                      them I ask; Genetic modification of crops
                      has killed how many people? Come on, is a
                      technology with a safety track record as
                      good as GMO's, really worth this much
                      slander and fear mongering?

                      Focusing your emotion and energy on
                      something like e.coli control or soil
                      erosion would be far more beneficial to
                      humanity.

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