RCMP seize firearms from evaxuated homes

[15444]

People are way too trusting of people with a badge - typical average townie. I'd be one of the 300 still sitting in a flooded house. I'd have to be in a body bag to get me out.

[rockpile]

I can't believe what I just read here but maybe my
view of the world is tainted because I spent 14
years with the volunteer FD in my community so I
see things from a slightly different perspective. This
is not business as usual, it is a disaster. It affected
100,000 people - far too many who have lost
everything, even their homes. And you're worried
about some friggin guns. Let me make it clear, a
state of emergency had been declared. Guess what
- at that point your rights are completely
suspended. The only difference between this and
the War Measures Act is the scope of the area
affected. In High River, they were given about 12
minutes warning to evacuate. Ado, you state
perhaps some of these people simply removed their
guns from the basement for safe keeping. That is
an assumption you cannot prove. If they are that
valuable to you, why wouldn't you take them with
you - no law against that. If I faced that situation I'd
be more worried about packing up my tax info, my
file cabinet, passport, ipad, iphone, meds,
electronic records, photo albums, toothpaste and
brush, some spare clothes, etc.
Burnt, you suggest the RC's took advantage of the
situation to follow some program you've dreamt up.
In fact, they were ordered in by the Director of
emergency services, when safe to do so, to look for
possible dead, incapacitated who were unable to
make it out and to encourage the belligerent
knotheads who stayed behind to please leave
because their presence was a setback to everyone.
No water, power, gas or sewer, they are crapping
and peeing into the streets of High River. Which
brings me to 15444's comment about body bags. It
was a bloody miracle only 4 people perished when
you consider the scope of this disaster. For those
who stayed behind, chances are pretty damn good
they have contracted some nasty 3rd world health
issues. These things aren't just in the water, they
are now airborne.
To sum up, quit whining about guns - do
something useful like donate money to the relief
efforts and rebuilding efforts. And yes, sometimes
we have to do extraordinary things to save people
from themselves - stupid is as stupid does! Hope
this never happens in Dog River or wherever you're
from, but then again they are always looking for
new recipients of Darwin Awards. And keep in mind,
what happened in High River, Canmore, Bragg
Creek and parts of Calgary was more like tsunami
than what is normally seen as a flood. Medicine Hat
had a flood. Whole different circumstance.

[ado089]

Precisely rock pile, there are more
important things to look after than some
guns. The purpose of the state of
emergency and suspension of certain
rights is to facilitate emergency
response and ensure adequate access, not
to selectively seize certain types of
property. As you pointed out there
likely are several things you take with
you before firearms, none the less I
would not leave such valuables in harms
way. It's people like you that justify
unwarranted infringements of liberty
that make it easier for those wanting to
abuse power to do so next time. The like
s of Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot didn't just
show up take people's rights away
overnight. They chizled away slowly with
promises of social justice and security.
Next thing you know a few million people
are dead. I'm sure those people said
that couldn't happen there too. So thank
you for your service to the community
and those in need but until you've been
somewhere like the killing fields of
cambodia where you can still smell the
death 30 years later I don't think you
should be so cavalier about a little
suspension of rights.

[cottonpicken]

**** off rock pile.

[parsley]

Six pompous slugs paddling a boat, targeting
specific houses to illegally break into, without
permission? confiscating private property, without
permission, ad all in the name of the law.

Yup. That's what the RCMP has become. Guess
what? Cities and Rural municipalities don't have
to renew the RCMP contracts they have. They
can hire their own private police protection.

Filming the break-ins is akin to farting directly in
your mother's face. And then telling her
recognizing dangerous odors is for her own
safely.

[burnt]

Well said, ado.

What is so troubling is when the deep insecurities of a few begin dictate the parameters of the existence of the entire society. Eventually, as you pointed out, the "legal" authority itself becomes the source of the harm inflicted on the populace.

Rockpile, I am not belittling your service; in fact I deeply respect what you did to provide a necessary service to the community.

However, the day you turn a fire house on my house because the roof is warm from the sun is the day that you will lose all respect from me, as well as all the resistance that I can muster.

Your badge will do you no good on that day.

That is exactly what the RCMP has done - regardless of what they found in any home.

How long will it take to undo the damage to their brand that this stupid, mindless seizure episode has caused?

[parsley]

You might be a professional do-gooder rocky,
but housing have a clue what respect for other
people's property means. pars

[parsley]

Ado, well said. maybe attending local rural
municipality meetings to discuss alternate
policing would be prudent. Pars.

[parsley]

THE ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE
OWE CANADIANS AN APOLOGY FOR
OFFICIOUS BREAK AND ENTER.

[rockpile]

Ado, nothing was seized, the guns were removed
and secured and will be given back to the owners
when things settle down. It's a bit extreme to
compare this situation to the likes of Pol Pot and
the killing fields in Cambodia. Just the same, for the
deceased, location is not really material. Btw, no
one will be charged. Also, there are still 25 people
in the High River area unaccounted for.
Let me run something past you. It's 3 AM and your
neighbour calls 911 to report that your house is on
fire. The FD arrives, there is no sign of anyone
around, flames are coming through the roof and
smoke coming out windows. I guarantee you no one
will stop to ring the door bell. It will be an interior
response with the hope it is a rescue and not a
recovery. And if possible, attempts will be made to
remove your valuables. I take the opposite
viewpoint. All of this intrusion is to in fact protect
your life, your property and your rights. But
supposing the guns were left behind, and a bad guy
did get a hold of them and committed a crime with
them, would the owner not be partially responsible?
Something about opportunity? Shouldn't happen
because there are some 3 to 4 hundred extra
Mounties brought into the area to secure it.
Nevertheless, when the situation is out of control,
there is no time to sit around and debate points of
personal privilege. But if you are truly concerned
about your privacy and rights, have you done your
due diligence to oppose the proposed internet
spying Bill?