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Why is their a $3 inverse in Canola yet Soy is $1?

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  • SASKFARMER3
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 14485

    #11
    Selling some of that stored today for 646 plus 35 basis is $15.44 vs 13.60 (your 600) last fall. Now the rest will play with till June Basis in hand. Your feeding the Giant, My question is Why let them come for it not give it to them.

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    • fjlip
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2002
      • 9797

      #12
      Pioneer is offering -13.43 basis off Nov, is that anything to lock in?

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      • jdepape
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 705

        #13
        July/Nov canola is equal to $1.58 over
        July/Nov soybeans is $2.06 over

        Soybeans have the bigger new crop "discount" to old crop.

        What am I missing?

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        • jdepape
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 705

          #14
          New crop canola is actually on the high side. The supply side of the balance sheet is a bit tenuous - one of the smallest carry-ins we've ever seen and now seeding problems.

          This scenario is showing up already in both new crop basis and spreads. Some new crop basis levels are north of $10 under; Nov/Jan at practically even money and deferred spreads are at inverses.

          The market is expecting continued tightness and it shows.

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          • jdepape
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 705

            #15
            By the way - when I say a basis is "north of 10 under" I mean higher - like 5 under. As in it gives a higher price.

            Basis is a price, not a cost.

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            • btjadenlepp
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2005
              • 290

              #16
              Saw a basis this afternoon at $14/t over
              the Jan for new crop. Never been anything
              like that before at this time of year!

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              • jdepape
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 705

                #17
                There are three things to keep in mind when
                looking at new crop basis this year:
                1. Extremely tight carry in
                2. Iffy crop prospects.
                3. No CWB. Means wheat is now a cash crop
                and I expect to see more wheat sold for cash flow
                leading to higher basis than before.

                Best basis for nu crop I've seen is about a buck
                under Jan.

                Where's the 14 over?

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                • Hopperbin
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 6562

                  #18
                  Agree spill the bullshit or the beans what ever it is. Bullshit????

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