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Canola crusher Renting thousands of acres north. Of valley in Saskatchewan!

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  • mbratrud
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 1019

    #31
    I'm pretty sure they will get tired of that after a year or 2 OR will be a huge operation within 10yrs. Its a free market.
    I agree with the poster that discussed value added but just in reverse. From their perspective i'm sure they are concerned about supply of product just like we are concerned about land supply. The more foreign or large corperate consolidation the larger the larger the threat.
    Even though I don`t particularily like the competition, I wouldn`t change our way of doing business.
    Don't be surprised to see more of this in the Future.


    So SF3 are you saying if a group of Farmers got together, and made a good business case to build a crushing facilty in JRI and LDM backyard. That would add good value back to your farm you wouldn't do it because you wouldn't want to mow their grass so to speak?

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    • BTO_farmall
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 509

      #32
      God Bless You Saskabush,

      Louis Dufus is Shootin Themselves in The Foot. Here's The Numbers, Why. Say Theys Crushin 2500 MT per day = 110,231 Bu per Day/30 Bu Yield to Thee Acre = 3674.37 Acres per DAY Theys Roughly Crushin. As Yous can see, Theys gunna needa Be Farmin Alotta Land just to Maintain Crush. This is a VERY Bad Business Plan on Their Part. F#ck em', Just Haul Right on By and Dump in Richardson's Pit!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • samhill
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 896

        #33
        I think they'll get a new appreciation of what canola is
        worth.

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        • phoenix64
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 119

          #34
          Jeepers boys make sure ur expressing concerns
          to ur local elected officials! Farmers put these
          guys in govt....we can take em out!

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          • Hopperbin
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 6562

            #35
            At first glance renting a few thousand acres is a drop in the bucket. Some day Sask3 may come the day you or your offsprings will want to rent the land out due to what ever reason accident etc. Can you say to yourself you would like to just rely on the local farmers be them young or old to take on the job? Two sides to this story. One thing for sure if LD has the best dockage and a better price I will sell to them. Nice to see basis at better levels. I don't think their income per acre is going to be any better than yours since they likely intend to get mostly custom work done. Does not make sense in my books. I think there is still profit to be made in making responsible machinery purchases and maintenance. Still makes sense somewhere to have a little competition out there.

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            • cottonpicken
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 6993

              #36
              Should the question not be why?

              Obviously money,but why,are they greedy rich
              pigs making more or are their margins so low they
              are sucking air or is it a risk play?

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              • Hopperbin
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2007
                • 6562

                #37
                The oilfield field industry is having a hard time finding competent workers, never worked in the oil field but cannot one teach someone to do their job in just a few days? Seems to me a job in the oil patch would be much more repetitive than farming.

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                • hobbyfrmr
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 3178

                  #38
                  Considering BTO's opinion, there really is not that much money in it. There is not enough volume/acres to "save the day" and fill a shortage for any length of time.
                  Soooo, I suspect, nobody wants to take the chance and farm it for the price of what the rent is expected.
                  LD may very well just be a liason for the Vancouver investors, helping them get their properties farmed/rented. Maybe investors are goig to control and pay all inputs and custom work hoping for the returns they expected when purchased. LD might be supplying landlords with the credit to buy inputs. They have supplied the inputs and good custom operators for the best chance of success for Vancouver investors. Man, there are so many angles to this story.

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                  • Hopperbin
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 6562

                    #39
                    Makes sense when you think of it that way Hobby. And maybe they get 100 percent of the canola grown. Maybe even at a higher basis. Tacking on an extra 20 dollars per ton would be a profitable part.

                    One reason I bought my high clearance sprayer was the fact I spent 50,000 dollars in custom application one year.
                    Running my own sprayer was borderline economically for me as it also costs some to run the machine plus depreciation. The bigger factor of getting the job done right and more timely was of more concern. I think it is the same with any other custom work done.


                    Since land rent is already high in the area, what are these guys paying now? Sit back go visit that property in Hawaii.

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                    • tubs
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 492

                      #40
                      sf 3 you do the same thing if you can like buying land you don't let young farmers in unless they are willing to pay the price now the shoe is on the other foot and you are whining about that. After a few years not getting a return the will sell. Greed is king

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