How bout some aid now boys

[cuban_assassin]

We gotta kick up a fuss boys remember the squeaky wheel gets the grease. The way things are today with the kind of dollars we put in the dirt every spring one very bad year like this will cause huge problems in the ag industry. Salesmen hounding me trying to sell anything and everything. Haven't seen them around here in years. They are desperate to sell something and are hurting bad.

[Grahamp]

We are always told how subsidized crop insurance is and I am not saying the government doesn't put money in but I know that I got better coverage (dollar of coverage / dollar of premium) through GARS than through SCIC. So as far as I am concerned the government can keep their crop insurance subsidey.

[sumdumguy]

Parsley, with all due respect, we have never had a government before that did not publicly acknowledge unforseen difficult circumstances. Is it ostriches who stick their head in the sand? To hear not a boo... Railways jack us around for months, not a boo until some bogus "legislation" with no teeth and wrought with errors, come on, I know you and don't think you are serious when you imply that this is acceptable.

[bucket]

125 million for an industry that doesn't realize the primary producer is the driver not the suits or researchers.

[bucket]

Parsley

You still voting conservative after the the Saudi intervention?

[bgmb]

You have aid it's called crop insurance doesn't look good when farmers driving 60000 dollar pickups have their hand out

[vvalk]

I'm on the fence here and I would call my self a right wing businessman. Question is do we really work in a free market? Do we really see a true value for our crops? Let's say ( after generations of hard work) that an average full time farm has 2-5 million invested in land buildings and equipment. Then add in $200-$350 an acre costs. Factor in all the potential risks that One can't hedge against. Too much/little rain, frost, bugs, disease like aster yellow etc etc. do you really think canola should be $10 and we should be happy with that. Wheat at $6. Barley at $3-$4. When we can get the real value out of our commodities because other countries quit subsidizing the shit out of their farmers, then let's scrap any government help. parsley, what makes you think other industries aren't subsidies? First supply management is subsidized by every single consumer. The whole oil insldustry is build on subsidies and continues to be. Just look at the royalty structure. They don't really pay unless they make money. As it should be. We are one of the very few industries that creates money for the economy.
Most industries just move money around.

[bucket]

Looks just as bad when a football team's ceo drives a Cadillac while getting 80 million from the province.

Or the Russian steel company one of the best in north America getting handouts while employees have new vehicles.

Let's not forget the royalty restructuring for potash either so every potash worker is driving new vehicles or rvs or boats.

[vvalk]

Bgmb. So if you drive A junker around and use old equipment etc. then its ok to get subsidized if the shit hits the fan? What if we don't get rain for 4 years straight? Will everyone on here have the same principals? The argument should be the same then as now, as to why we shouldn't get money. You don't think paying 60 percent of our crop insurance premiums isn't a great return on investment for the entire economy and all rural Canada?

[Flatlander]

Actually pars I think the $833,??? Being jacked to $1000000 is for ALL small businesses capital gains, farms, fish, and other business as well. Talk to accountant, may have to sell your shares of company but I believe available to all..

As for crop ins look at toal premium before deductions and compare to total $ coverage. WTF not to many multiples of premium to reach coverage,who collects that often?

Not trying to be a socialist here by calling for aide but bucket points out some big free enterprisers in the west and in ag, seem to be deep in the trough.