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Pros and Cons of the CWB Sale!

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  • Kodiak
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 546

    #21
    Parsley. You seem to be a visionary. At least that's what you proclaim. So, inspire others and gather a team who share your vision and want to work along side you. Show the leadership you say we are all lacking and get out in front instead of berating and lecturing.

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    • Kodiak
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 546

      #22
      And grassfarmer, the same for you. Inspire and lead. Telling us we are all too dumb to understand isn't going to work.

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      • parsley
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2000
        • 10986

        #23
        You're not dumb. Most of you can run a million dollar farm That's what puzzles me.

        But there is such strength in numbers, one has to ask why farmers don't band together. The main farm organizations cannot seem to attract large numbers of active participants. NFU. WBGA GGC. WCWGA

        A few active people attend. And work. But the main body of farmers don't act or support.

        Why? That's the question that needs addressing, isn't it Kodiak? . twenty five thousand farmers showing up for a meeting would earn a headline... Pars.

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        • stonepicker
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 1217

          #24
          Are half the people on here also on anti-depressants? Parsley and others consistantly put out well thought out intelligent posts and yet, instead of seeing the positive in it, many consistently immediately find a negative while also running the poster down. I think Tom is right ( a lot of hatred on here ) Goin seeding tommorow. PTL!

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          • BreadWinner
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 1493

            #25
            Well said Parsley, I've always thought of you as a great leader. You should be leading one of these farm groups. I would join in a heartbeat. I was involved with the WCWG but it seemed to be becoming a reactive type of lobby after the dismantling of the CWB. I think they got to big for their britches when they started to make legal challenges against the CWB. They have lost focus on helping the grass roots grain producer.

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            • grassfarmer
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2002
              • 9734

              #26
              Breadwinner I think that's a bit of a false goal too. Lots of guys here looking for a "leader" to step forward and "lead" farmers. To me doing that through farm groups is not really what we need most. Most of the farm groups are "sit around, talk and lobby Government groups" by definition.
              What we need are doers - people that build the markets, the infrastructure and to me these are the guys we need to gather around and co-operate with.

              Parsley already is a doer, involved with the organic side , as I have been in my small way on the beef side.
              Sometimes the worst thing you can do with these doers and entrepreneurs is put them on a board of an existing organisation as many of those are stifled with political bias and a "can't do" attitude.

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              • TOM4CWB
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2000
                • 16511

                #27
                Grassy,

                You ignore history. Plenty of good honest folks tried.

                Great leaders... FROM Alberta... worked tirelessly to change our Grain Industry.

                Legends in Leadership:

                JAMES Chateneay. Gave everything for the CWB.
                Lost Dear Olive... the best years of his life with Olive were torture and unforgivable (but by the grace of God) and unspeakable mean spirited vengeful acts of GREED.

                Both:

                Henry Vos;
                Jeff Nielsen:

                Were wonderful leaders and visionaries...

                Great Leaders who were thrown 'under the bus'
                for the selfish Single Desk Religion.

                To 'say' the 'old guard' didn't know better...

                Is inaccurate and part of the attitude that in reality caused the downfall of the best the CWB SHOULD have become; honestly speaking.

                Intimidate me; call me all the names you can muster... sadly this IS the TRUTH.

                Ricky Strankman continues in the 'Truth'... as does Sam Magnus... colleagues who are working tirelseely to make our province and country a better place politically. Thanks Sam and Ricky.

                Legends in Leadership:

                JAMES Chateneay. Gave everything for the CWB.
                Lost Dear Olive... the best years of his life with Olive were torture and unforgivable (but by the grace of God) and unspeakable mean spirited vengeful acts of GREED.

                Grassfarmer... we wish your account of the past was correct... for if it were... we would not be where we are at today!

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                • BreadWinner
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 1493

                  #28
                  You are right about the doers being too busy for these boards. They like things getting done not getting bogged down in ideas that never come to fruition. They have success in there own enterprises. I'm more the type to try work with the cards I'm dealt, some times you just have to play them a bit different to win the hand. Allot of successful people don't have time for politics or boards.

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                  • sumdumguy
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 11973

                    #29
                    Tom, you make great points about the leaders who gave their all for positive change. Yep, I believe that through their efforts and the efforts of many, we have been freed, but that is one step toward fulfillment. The grain industry needs many components working together to make it really tick. The producer does his part, he buys, rents, risks, toils and delivers, then he passed the puck. And there's the problem. He's a fine goose for plucking.

                    Parsley, can a group of growers take on huge grain conglomerates? No- Can they tell the railways what to do? No- Governments hold the power to regulate, that's why they are elected... and paid 'leaders'. They have the power to 'lead', make actual plans, design a course that all can live with and frickin 'lead' . But maybe I am asking too much, prolly.

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                    • TOM4CWB
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2000
                      • 16511

                      #30
                      SDG,

                      Since the most likely outcome of the Federal Oct 2015 election is a minority gov... it is likely who ever is in charge will be asked to change the CTA that govern the RR.

                      Being told by mid June backlogs will be gone... we are nearly cleared up here now.

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