Why is a free market working in australia and not canada

[Hopalong]

Good question, mallee, thanks for asking.
On a farm tour to Brazil a few years ago we asked farm and industry people why railways were not being built to new production areas.
Answer we got was if just one railway, rates would likely be just under trucking cost. Investors not ready to stump up money for a competitive rail system.
Kind of stuck with long distance trucking, don't think they are much closer to solution for their problem.

[Hopalong]

United States has river and barge transport system to Gulf of Mexico but relies a lot on rail to Pacific Northwest and St Lawrence.
Used to hear complaints about captive shipper areas and rail rates higher than those in Canada.
During our inability to get grain to port a year ago, their grower associations played up their system as a reliable supplier and sort of forgot to mention higher rail cost if indeed it still exists.

[malleefarmer]

Think furthrest port in oz for farmers in central nsw maybe 600 km so different than you guys so guys in eastern canada if they grow grain have no issues?
Know im a simple guy but this is hoing to be ongoing everytime you have a big production year

[farmaholic]

Potash, oil products, intermodal, general freight, large increase in Ag production compared to 30 years ago have the downsized Rail transportation causing problems in additikn to a lack of willingness on their part. Can I have a contract that guarantees my expenses and profit please, sounds like a sweet gig for transporting grain.

[SASKFARMER3]

Wow brave take a deep breath you might blow a vessel.
Railways are not doing their job. It's not about basis.
If you can't see what's going on out their you have blinded ers on.
Took Tom a year and all of a sudden shit we have a problem.
Yes mallee next big crop the shit will hit the fan again.
Brave will live in his bubble not seeing the big picture. Keep telling ritz all is good.

[TASFarms]

When a rail company cans a couple thoasand works and gets rid of a bunch of locamotives right when there is a all time high for rail shipping. How is anything supposed to work. Cp should be forced right off the rails

[riders2010]

I can't believe people don t comprehend the scam going in between rail and grain cos with basis.

Basis high they don t want it basis low they do. There is a world market running 24 7 that wants the crop. We re missing the true value of that market because the rail only wants to move certain things certain times. The grain co s use that to fk around with basis resulting in lower prices than what should be it s free *** money to not take our grain theft is what it is. Not to mention the real cost that buyers must say screw canada let's get the grain somewhere else.
Let's get our own one line of track and our own rail fleet that loss in *** basis would
Pay for that in no time
And we d be making money on top if it.

Such a wide spread geographical
Area as us with all these resources and we don't have a government with enough brains to realize the importance of moving things to the coast or elsewhere. No wonder there is such limited manufacturing and processing here you d never sell anything anyway

[Hopalong]

Would make a guess that, for ninety per cent of the grain, free market is working pretty well similar to Australia.
Local area has had good rail movement, sympathize with those in areas that have not.

[blackpowder]

Don't forget the complete opposite in commercial storage between Oz and CA.
80% vs 12%.

[malleefarmer]

agree blackpowder that's my point why doesn't it get fixed plently of farmer owned storage in Australia
http://www.moulameingrain.com.au/~wwwmoula/ this one is a model a lot have used they needed storage so built there own