Grain Shipping Order

[ajl]

How many of the waiting boats are actually under contract? Lots of boats are waiting close to port in anticipation of a contract so no demurrage is being paid. There is lots of grain in the world looking for a buyer right now so the shipping pace is actually meeting current demand.

[bucket]

Ajl


Then why have goals to produce more?

52 by 2025 and 100 bpa of low protein faller wheat. For a world that says no thanks?

[stonepicker]

Hey, if some of those boats are there waiting for business then that is our advantage, but getting the grain there in a timely fashion is what we all want ( grain companies too ) and i think every farmer in western canada wants to see improvement there.

[bucket]

Apparently it hasn't been too much of a priority since about September 2013.

And don't forget the railways have changed their car order system to make them look better not the system as a whole.

Graincos are no better or they would be somewhat noisy.

[stonepicker]

We've had a lot worse bucket, the 60's 70's 80's 90's, everything from 3 bus. wht. quota's for the entire crop year to well over 50 ships waiting for grain, not all years were bad and certainly not all were good. A farmer has more options today, don't you agree?

[bucket]

Yep more options that don't solve the problem for farmers, potash producers etc.

Yours is a myopic view. Options mask the underlying problems.

1997 should have woke this country up that we don't have the track capacity.

And if you think trucking is a problem solver - wait til the bill for the public highway system comes due.

[stonepicker]

There should have been an uprising and some lynchings in the days of those 3 bu. quota's, simply amazing that farmers put up with that.

[stonepicker]

I've never said that trucking was the answer, rail is the most efficient by far, but when you get served lemons make lemonade. As far as the condition of our highways, it's pathetic in MB. and we have no money to fix them. Well, the perimeter around WPG. is in pretty good shape.

[wmoebis]

Anywhere to find out what boats are ordered and what ones are waiting? Maybe even by company?

[sawfly]

maybe the market was not there for a 10 bushel quota.
that was right before the great grain robbery.
tough frozen and lots of it.

it made people mad , i remember .
but if you took 1/4 the price to get a 10 bushel quota.
what would be the point.

the western cdn. wheat growers always wanted cheap prices on the prairies anyway , so we would diversify.

like cheap Durham , for processing
and cheap malt barley for malt.
and were even against 2 price wheat.

we could not have 2 price wheat.
because it was hard on bakers.

but we have no problem having 2 priced fertilizer now.
higher here, where it is made, than the world price.

lots of history,
time to move on and deal with the mess we have now .

but without political will nothing will change.

everyone that matters is fine with things ,
so dream on if anyone thinks a fix other than a crop failure is coming.