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  • tstep
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 394

    #11
    How many years under the CWB was there more than 15 ships waiting at the coast and the last 3 years of this free market shit show we've had 3 years of ships waiting. What has that cost producers of western Canada. Another thing to is that there are millers in the world that have stop buy grain from Canada because we are now classified as an unreliable source. Because of grain co, RR, Govt. who ever u want to blame for this cluster ****.

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    • bucket
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 17027

      #12
      Under the previous pools wasn't the terminals at port built with farmers money. Now we have to build more because no one was looking at yield increases and the impact to logistics prairie to port.

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      • BreadWinner
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 1493

        #13
        As far as I'm concerned this rail cap is killing us. The railroads are only moving the minimum amount of grain and it is not priority. Say we increased the amount railways get paid working on a reward system based on performance instead of penalties. Then the elevators would stop taking advantage of the backlogged system and would have to compete for our product. That is what we need is more companies bidding for our grain. The railways would also be competing between the two of them for more market share. To be honest if we don't start competing against the crude and bulk freight we will be hauling our own grain to the coast.

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        • BreadWinner
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 1493

          #14
          Basically the railways are on strike against the farmer, can't we work with these companies instead of fighting them. The free market is not working with bottlenecks.

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          • BreadWinner
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 1493

            #15
            CP’s export grain revenue for the 2013-14 crop year was $623-million, $1.6-million below its cap. Canadian grain is the largest line of business for CP, which recorded a record $6.6-billion in revenue in 2014.

            Rival CN’s $672-million in revenue from western grain exceeded its cap by almost $5-million, an amount it was told to relinquish in addition to a five-per-cent penalty of $250,000. (The money goes to the Western Grains Research Foundation.)

            Claude Mongeau, CN’s chief executive officer, told the Globe and Mail last year the revenue rule discouraged spending on its grain operations.

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            • bucket
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 17027

              #16
              Railways need more?

              Why? They provide the pulling power and that's it.

              When freight rates are tied to performance, level of service agreements signed and an understanding that demurrage is not farmers cost, it might make sense. Until then - NO.

              They have used the same argument many times. Give us more we will do better. Never happens.

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              • BreadWinner
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 1493

                #17
                Your farm is performance based so why shouldn't the railways want the same? Railways own the pulling power, the rails and most of all the rights to those grain cars you thought were yours, just like you thought the cwb was yours.

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                • BreadWinner
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 1493

                  #18
                  Either we start paying more to get more grain to the export end or the grain companies will continue to fleece us. We want free enterprise but yet we go crying to the government all the time.

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                  • bucket
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 17027

                    #19
                    I have heard this song before. Pay more get better service.

                    It's a bullshit line. It's blackmail. And continuing to buy into it is nonsense.

                    We pay more than in 1997 yet the problems of 1997 keep cropping up two years running.

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                    • wmoebis
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 1999
                      • 2652

                      #20
                      Railways have met grain obligations, mostly, says @pmharper. Says govt is tracking closely.

                      So Gov't says RR aren't the problem.

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