Single Pass Systems are on the way out

[food4u]

Nothing better than the smell of freshly worked earth..

[furrowtickler]

Broadcasting works well to improve seeding efficiency but you have no idea of growing conditions in the growing season, or if flooding/drought may occur. Fall broadcasting does reduce the need for expensive storage and still allow cheaper fert to be bought earlier if it's a pay now take now situation.

Top dressing/dribble banding in crop works very well if timing and weather allow it.
We have done both over the years with dry and liquid with mixed results depending on weather.

Wilton, what if you could get more productivity out of your current seeding outfit and foliar feed without any extra passes?
Say put on 50 to 75% of your current fert at seeding then apply the rest at herbicide and fungicide time when you are spraying anyway?

Seabass - in dry years, one will most likely not need fungicides or additional fert or be able to adjust the amount of fert with weather/growing conditions. Still utilize single pass seeding outfits but at less risk than applying all the fert before the crop is growing.
Just food for thought..

[bucket]

Why is everyone trying to grow more to not be able to move it and getting less for it.

Grow more make less. Yup sounds great.

Railways motto: move less make more and hold the country ransom to boot.

My motto: Quit feeding the parasites.

[binthere]

she will be tough to put the pride on the shelf and beat this addiction.

[mustardman]

Checkout research done in Montana on broadcasting and there is always a loss when fertilizing this way.20 % or more

Putting it in the ground is best

[Klause]

Wow... since when does an extra pass mean soil disturbance...


Streaming. .. melting urea and foliar feeding... could be adding 10 lbs of N every time you cover thr field with the sprayer.

[furrowtickler]

Bucket this is not really about growing more for less, it's just splitting fert timing and being less reliant on expensive iron to be more efficient.
Although there may be some good deals at auctions this spring on seeding outfits.
There are many ways to dissect any seeding/fert system, they all work - it's just at what cost?
I look at it from a time and cost management view point. There is only so many pennies in the well and time on the clock regardless of farm size.

[furrowtickler]

Seabass - you don't have to change tillage pratices. You can still be zero till. This has nothing to do with any extra tillage at all.

[furrowtickler]

Klause - are using melted urea with herbicide and fungicides?
What rates are you using to get 10 lbs N ? Any leaf burn issues ?
Have you done trails of melted urea beside dribble banding 28-0-0?
Sorry for the questions but I would like to try doing this but I am nervous about crop burn as a foliar.
So each pass is in that $5-6 /ac range ?

[seabass]

Ya I understand furrow. In our area it is usually wet so having some black dirt showing generally helps. However that being said we have had dry windy springs which make it a helluva lot harder to seed canola. Most times I find if I guess right I look like a genius. Lol
As for urea furrow we have melted it down and applied it with herb and fung. Have to be careful what products your mixing with and how much u are putting down. Found it to be a PITA. Have switched back to 28 dribble banding after herb app. Costs a bit more but more bang for my buck with very little injury. Have experimented with additives in 28 with less risk of antagonism. Still trying to find what works best as every year is different. As for urea it is definitely worth trying as long as u are set up to mix a lot in one shot. Can be a bit time consuming by yourself. Definitely cheaper.