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  • grassfarmer
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2002
    • 9734

    #41
    Won't lose much weight drinking that magical Harper Koolaid Tom.
    Hunger strike by western Canadian grain farmers? I'll believe that when I see it - most seem afraid to protest in public (other than hiding behind aliases on the internet)

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    • TOM4CWB
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2000
      • 16511

      #42
      Agstar77

      Your solution to our transportation problems are? Does the Transportation review know? Thanks

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      • bucket
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 17028

        #43
        Tom

        The cta review was written before it was announced. The same problems have been there for too long which is part of the reason your court case was thrown out.

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        • agstar77
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2001
          • 6212

          #44
          They know the solutions but nobody will bell the cat.

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          • TOM4CWB
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2000
            • 16511

            #45
            Agstar77

            Bell the Cat then... Please tell us your opinion.

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            • cottonpicken
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 6993

              #46
              Maybe we should have check off dollars goto a team of lawyers to fight for us(yes i puked in my mouth a little)but it's the way the system works.

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              • TOM4CWB
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2000
                • 16511

                #47
                Bucket,

                Many very talented, very experienced people did work on the review. Pulse Canada for one... is a great provider of input and experience. Gord Bacon is a terrific leader who knows what is going on... from his experience at the CWB... forward to today. No one knows better than Gord does.

                We need a world class transportation system. How do we get that system? We obviously DO have the infrastructure.

                Now... leadership is needed to break up Hunters CN/CP coalition... and provide the needed services to grain growers in western Canada!

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                • TOM4CWB
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 16511

                  #48
                  CottonPicken,

                  I am fearful we have no property rights... so it is really doubtful if lawyering up would be helpful?

                  Can we go after Hunter for collusion and anticompetitive management? Perhaps there is some basis for review here... but how could we prove this? Are the laws strong enough to provide relief?

                  All good thoughts to wrangle with, thanks for your input!

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                  • cottonpicken
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 6993

                    #49
                    A few years ago on here i suggested we use that chunk of money we got,was it from the railroads?memory is hitting a blank and it went to some organization cant remember never heard what happened to it,anyways ya lawyers may have just bled it dry but maybe not pretty sure the only way to fix things like this is through the courts unless you want to play railway trac vs four wheel drive tractor,lol i kid i kid.

                    What scares me is we may not have a leg to stand on lots of industries ship stuff on rail i dont see how they will give us special treatment pay up or shut up,i dont like that fact anymore then everyone else

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                    • TOM4CWB
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2000
                      • 16511

                      #50
                      CottonPicken,

                      I just got off the phone with Gord Bacon CEO of Pulse Canada.

                      Europe has a very interesting model we should be following. Go into a train station... and there are railway companies from all over Europe....

                      JUST LIKE AN AIRPORT.

                      Rail Roadbeds are works for the general advantage of Canada... regulated by the CTA.

                      What if we were to move our system forward... to a European class type of operations... Multiple Rail Co's... Just like the CP 175car potash train headed north to CN rails... or better yet the directional tracks in the Frazer River Canyon... where CN trains are on CP tracks... and the reverse CP trains on CN track going in the other direction.

                      We easily have the technology... and the capability... to safely run trains anywhere on any rail roadbed.

                      It is a question therefore... of whether or not... CN and CP are providing reliable and adequate service.

                      Many shippers would argue... the CN/CP alliance are holding shippers 'ransom'... to milk our resources to the very core.

                      The Naber grain case which went against the railway... is a recent example of failure to provide adequate service to the grain industry in western Canada. Some would argue... that the railroad was responsible for the Naber crew financial failure.

                      Interesting times!

                      Does anyone here have experience in rail systems... in Europe?

                      How about Australia?

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