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  • bgmb
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 1645

    #21
    No chance of a good farmer getting a payout when they changed the rules so a good farmers margin is now the same as a poor farmers margin. Yep thats the conservative way.

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    • freewheat
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 2981

      #22
      You mean the lucky farmers and unlucky ones right? lol. The poor farmers are with Elvis, for the most part they have left the building!

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      • ajl
        Senior Member
        • May 2008
        • 3246

        #23
        That's right freewheat. Most farmers succeed in spite of themselves, not because of themselves. Some need more hail, drought, and/or flooding to see if they really are 'good' farmers.

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        • freewheat
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 2981

          #24
          Meh, I just don't like the, "good farmer, poor farmer" ideas out there.

          If yer struggling along, it must be management, huh?

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          • sawfly
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2005
            • 876

            #25
            accountant advised against it.
            so never went in.
            i have built up a decent agrinvest
            account . (for how ever many years it has been) for the hard times surely to
            come.
            only to see that figure ,
            that entire amount clawed back (or transferred in basis ) to the grain co.s. in one year.
            ( kinda sick feeling)

            it really points out that you can manage the safety net all you want.
            it becomes meaningless ,

            when you stand by and let the whole system go to hell.
            Places like Germany/ Norway have economic strategy's ,
            where is ours?

            world prices were not horrible.
            we just could not access them.

            it did not hurt the grain. co.s
            or the rail roads. at all, ( so why would they bother fixing it) but it did hurt the country.

            why do we bother electing anyone if their job is to do nothing.

            i think the govt. actually
            has a job. other than the corporate enabler we have now..

            and who here thinks the little railroad fines, have cured our flawed transportation system?

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            • WiltonRanch
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 4517

              #26
              I remember my accountant tried to talk me into it and I initially fell for it. After a bunch of info gathering on inventories and what not I told him this is a waste because I am a mixed farmer and there's no chance of ever collecting anything. Oh he was just about crying that I decided to not go on. Buggers still charged me $900 for what little they did. I am glad I terminated it before it cost me any more. Agstab is just govt window dressing; the store is empty. Put the money into research, public breeding, crop ins etc. the proactive things. These complex and ad hoc programs don't do anything to address the real problems.

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              • Guest

                #27
                That's a laugh ! CN paid $100 k , CP refused to pay $50 k ? It's a joke , we lost more than that on own farm easily .

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                • Richard5
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 469

                  #28
                  For those still in it, opt out, end your pain, suffering and frustration

                  http://www.saskcropinsurance.com/agristability/forms/cancelparticipation.pdf

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                  • Hopperbin
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 6562

                    #29
                    My opinion would be put all money crop ins and agstab abollish them. Put the money into ag invest. No accountant to pay. No govt paid auditors. Actually we could have half the gov't input money let farmers do their own safety. Ones that do not are gone poblem solved. I suppose I talk tuff but it is correct is it not?

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                    • Hopperbin
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 6562

                      #30
                      Half of the govt input would pay farmers more. Many farmers still grow crops according to crop ins profit. How much sense is that? Agstab was there to make farmers more profitable accountant takes half. Invest is there without costs.

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