this seed thing is just bad ,bad bad,

[mustardman]

Unfortunately, I think that just about nails it sawfly

[farmaholic]

....take off your tinfoil hats. Don't you trust "them" to treat you fair?

They've gained full control of the canola seed market, "without" UPOV91 (Unlimited Pricing Opportunity Victory 91)

[tweety]

If its too expensive, another business model will emerge. Always has, always will.

[sawfly]

every one ends up paying more for forever
than a one time cost to the govt. and farmer.
under the new system , the only
benefactor is the seed patent holder.

with ultimately the consumer and farmer paying a tax forever.

that is a sick world

[Braveheart]

"Rolling around in the word innovation". A huge part of any farm's success can be using innovation.

In our case, reducing tillage, fertilizer placement, guidance, tissue testing and split app, fungicide use, etc are all examples I rate as innovation with big roi. When I think about seed, outside of input trait GMOs, innovation in the seed business hasn't given us the the same growth.

I think of it in terms of risk. Promises in quality or end use specs (by new varieties) can be wiped out in one untimely weather event. So, I end up buying a new variety, pay royalties with the promises of improved whatever, but, I carry ALL the risk.

Is this where end point royalties would make sense? Quality, or yield, delivered as promised, royalty paid. Variety doesn't deliver on guarantee, no royalty. I don't think this is the intent but would be an interesting twist to share risk.

[Braveheart]

I do like Parsley's suggestion re saving some traditional seed.

I always like a contingency plan, and hate being held captive.

[Braveheart]

To my earlier post, we always have choices. We don't have to grow what they're selling.

Also, how much different is UPOV91 from the PBR royalties we already pay?

[farmaholic]

Now there is a interesting twist.

If you can get a quality guarantee that would be worth something... Good luck though.

[bucket]

I watched alot of number one durum downgraded to a 5 even after all the sprayer passes.

Mother nature rules.

[SASKFARMER3]

Wow tweety you live in a world of your own. Another business model will emerg FM when once you loose something have farmers ever got value back. Once it's gone were F$&krd. Plain and simple.
Canola proves it those that don't realize are mostly newbys to the canola game. Now we get 60 once in a while before we got 50 once in a while. Both will give 12 if turn hot before and new super varieties.
Only thing different they deregulated all others before and now U.S. farmers are F$&ked.