Canola do you spray Fungicide on a shitty crop or not?

[cottonpicken]

We should do a poll on what if their is no more rain coming,lots of ****ed acres now from flood what if no more rain?

My guess average to slightly above,Mbratrud maybe has a better idea,that area looks great.

[ado089]

Oliver, I agree 3 to 1 is the minimum on high percentage products. When we start talking about what if type novel products I like to see something closer to 5:1.

Around here the top foot is dry, the second foot is about 50% and the third foot is ok...on the level. 10 more days without rain could be bad news.

[farmaholic]

3:1 payback would mean for a $20/ac application and chemical cost you would have to get $60, on wheat? Who would ever spray then? Better odds with canola and the higher/bu price. 5:1 ????
In the fall when you "offer" your grain(cereals) to the Pirates and they pick it apart with a magnifying glass, tweezers and hand sort a weighed sample..... I've never seen a group of people demand so much and offer so little.

[ado089]

Ding! Ding! Ding! Why do I want to spend my time to go to town spend my money, run my sprayer, trample some crop on the off chance Co dictionary line up perfect and if I spend $20 I'll make $40 to net $20. That said there's more to getting a return than just yield. 5:1 is for those snakoil $5-10 products.

[saskcanfarmer]

If it's a garuntee that you won't lose money and there is a chance you can get 2 or 3 to 1 return will you do it?

[mbratrud]

In 2012, those that didn't spray in our area had half of what those that did. Certainly doesn't mean that is the case this year, but it is a costly mistake many are reluctant to make again.

If the tap shuts off and the forecast certainly looks drier, things will start going backwards soon.

Cotton, We are feeling pretty fortunate, 2 weeks ago we were certainly teetering on the edge of too much water for lentils and flax probably lost 10% of each but could have been significantly more. Crops do look pretty good today, but a long way from the bin. A rain will be necessary in the next 10 days to protect the potential. Last time I was south crops didn't look too shabby either?

[SASKFARMER3]

This isn't 2012. Crops were lost in 2012 due to aster yellows. That's it that's all she wrote.

[mbratrud]

SF3 in our area there were many examples of those that sprayed had 40 BPA and those that didn't had mid 20's. Especially on the earlier seeded crops. I'm not trying to speak to what happened 90 Miles north of me that was just what we experienced. Aster yellows were definitely present as well. No doubt fungicides are a tough call. Everyone has to make a call kind of like Hail Insurance.

[mbratrud]

SF3 in our area there were many examples of those that sprayed had 40 BPA and those that didn't had mid 20's. Especially on the earlier seeded crops. I'm not trying to speak to what happened 90 Miles north of me that was just what we experienced. Aster yellows were definitely present as well. No doubt fungicides are a tough call. Everyone has to make a call kind of like Hail Insurance.

[bucket]

If the heat comes this year with no rain, guys will lose more from that than the disease.

The record crop last year was made with a big rain in late july if memory is correct.

If there is no substantial rain in the next two weeks this crop will be well below average. Right now a big rain won't make average.

2012 was a year that yellow asters hurt alot of crop.

No doubt there was disease but guys have convinced themselves that spraying helped, not sure that is the case for every year since.

Besides if your going to spray for sclerotinia why not use Contans in the fall and do a real preventative treatment without have to go back in at flowering??