Adler vs Supply Management

[Fransisco]

And Grassie you sound just like the chicken littles who said there is no way that canadian wheat farmers would ever get paid the same price as a US farmer in an open market. Well here we are today getting the same or better.

You take down that SM tariff wall and consumers will benefit big time.

[Burbert]

Maybe the Comedian Gobermont'll take over
milk and egg marketin to. Ritz knows
ostriches, theys like chickins soos why
not? Giver all to the merickins, F&*k
Comedian angribusiness!

[hedgehog]

supply management worked in the uk, dairy farmers made a reasonable living and milk was still cheap.
ever since quotas were scrapped, farmers have had a hiding, half have quit, and milk is no cheaPER.
but the middlemen are coining it.

[ASRG]

With the TTP milk, cheese, butter, eggs, poultry, etc. will come from where ever the corporations can source it the cheapest.....and that sure won't be Canada!
It won't be any cheaper. It will be whatever the market will bear.
All our dairy and poultry farmers will be growing grain. All our processing plants will be shutting down and moving the equipment to Vietnam.
As a little side note, get ready to pay a lot more for any medication you might need!
The corporations are about to screw you big time.

[grassfarmer]

You never actually had supply management in the UK
hedgehog, merely production quotas to control
production with no price setting of the end product.
That was a severely watered down version of the SM
system we have here. The strength of it was the milk
marketing boards which acted in exactly the same
manner as the CWB marketing farmers grains
collectively. And you are right - it worked great and
how they wish they had the boards back again.
A little bit of premature crowing here by the grain
guys about how smart they are with no CWB rather
reminds me of the early guys that signed contracts
with Wiseman on milk in Scotland....just give it a little
while to get an education in the deregulated
marketplace.

[TOM4CWB]

Grassy,

"The strength of it was the milk
marketing boards which acted in exactly the same
manner as the CWB marketing farmers grains collectively."

Did you ACTUALLY market grain through the CWB Grassy?

Ontarioio was given $1.50/bu leg up on grain prices ... and the CWB discount marketed high quality wheat into the US at $75/t below world market prices!

How this could be compaired to Cdn SM marketing... with cost of production components... I can't make the connection.

[grassfarmer]

Try reading it again TOM S-L-O-W-L-Y!!
I wasn't comparing Cdn "SM marketing" to the CWB I
was comparing the milk marketing boards they had
for dairy in the UK with the CWB.

[TOM4CWB]

Incase you missed the "QUOTES" ... they are your own words.

[burnt]

Tom, in the same post, grassfarmer also said that the UK system only exercised production quotas and not price setting.

Thus, a huge difference from the CWB mandate.

It would also be interesting to see how many dairy/feather farmers want to see the end of supply management.

Again, I suspect that there would be a vast difference here as well as in the grain industry affected by the CWB.

[highwayman]

Quite amusing to listen to Alfalfa talk about the wonderful benefits of the CWB and their marketing prowess when this individual has never had a skin in this game. The CWBs support will be overwhelmingly evident when new crop marketing numbers are released and Im predicting that they will be hardpressed to attract 15% of Canada's grain production. It doesn't matter how you dress it up or how much perfume you splash on it, a pig is stil a pig!